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    1980 gs850 wont run with pods???

    When i put pods on my bike it wont run properly its like it cuts off the air or something anyone know a fix

    #2
    Re-jet.

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      #3
      Hi oxcadillacxo.

      Welcome to the forum.

      The very short answer is put the airbox and filter back on.

      Sorry.

      You see a motorcycle is a complex machine with a lot of compromises made by the design team.

      The carbs are jetted so the restriction of the air filter and the restriction of the exhaust pipes are compensated and give you a good product.

      If you change one, the other or both you have a different bike.

      You can't make a better bike by just changing stuff. Sorry.

      You need to rejet your carbs and do what Suzuki already did with years (Decades) of expertise.

      Perhaps a member will chime in and tell you what jets to use. IDK.
      It's above me to try. My bike is stock.
      Daniel

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      1973 Honda ST90
      1983 Suzuki GS1100GK

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        #4
        Did you saw-all off the mufflers too?
        Ed

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          #5
          For starters: Have you adjusted the valves, cleaned the carbs? Stock exhaust? Which brand/type of air filters? What is the altitude range that you will be riding in? What is your location?

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            #6
            Stock exhaust carbs are clean valves are adjusted dont know the elevation and im in nc bike was running pods when i bought it. After further inspection it looks like the pods are blocking the holes in the carbs which is restricting air flow which in turn is causing it to bog when accelerating... taking the pods off and covering the carbs with a shop rag she runs great
            Last edited by Guest; 05-08-2014, 01:44 AM.

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              #7
              When I replaced the stock air box on my '82 1100e with APE pods (K&N knockoffs), it barely ran. To make it usable until I could get it re-jetted, I taped over about 90% of the filters (see upside down photo).

              She ran very fast, but hot like that. (She's properly jetted, electrical tape is off the filters now.)
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              1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

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                #8
                Read the Pods/pipe/panic thread
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                  #9
                  Are they the cheap pods on CV carbs? Have a look at the inside of the pod where it clamps to the carb. See that big ridge? It blocks the air passage to the slide diaphragm.

                  Buy K&N's or UniFliters if you must use pods, but your bike will run better all round with an air box.
                  Current:
                  Z1300A5 Locomotive (swapped my Intruder for it), GS450 Cafe Project (might never finish it....), XT500 Commuter (I know - it's a Yamaha :eek:)

                  Past:
                  VL1500 Intruder (swapped for Z1300), ZX9R Streetfighter (lets face it - too fast....), 1984 GSX750EF, 1984 GSX1100EF (AKA GS1150)
                  And a bunch of other crap Yamahas....

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                    #10
                    if you needed to ask this question, then the answer, again, is in my signature ..

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rob S. View Post
                      When I replaced the stock air box on my '82 1100e with APE pods (K&N knockoffs), it barely ran. To make it usable until I could get it re-jetted, I taped over about 90% of the filters (see upside down photo).

                      She ran very fast, but hot like that. (She's properly jetted, electrical tape is off the filters now.)
                      Good way to ruin the engine

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by hillsy View Post
                        Are they the cheap pods on CV carbs? Have a look at the inside of the pod where it clamps to the carb. See that big ridge? It blocks the air passage to the slide diaphragm.

                        Buy K&N's or UniFliters if you must use pods, but your bike will run better all round with an air box.
                        Thats what is wrong I found out last night but I dont have the money for k&n filters or a stock air box and i wanna ride Ill figure something out

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                          #13
                          The APE pods are about half the price of the K&N pods.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by hillsy View Post
                            . See that big ridge? It blocks the air passage to the slide diaphragm.
                            Huh???

                            The only "air passage to the slide diaphragm" is up through the center of the slide.

                            If you are talking about the vent that is at the top of the intake throat, that is the air intake for the "choke". It will have nothing to do with how the bike runs when it is warmed up and off "choke".

                            .
                            sigpic
                            mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                            Family Portrait
                            Siblings and Spouses
                            Mom's first ride
                            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                            (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by hillsy View Post
                              Are they the cheap pods on CV carbs? Have a look at the inside of the pod where it clamps to the carb. See that big ridge? It blocks the air passage to the slide diaphragm.

                              Buy K&N's or UniFliters if you must use pods, but your bike will run better all round with an air box.
                              Yup, sure enough, some of the cheaper air filters block the air jet. You could cut out a notch so that it gets some air...

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