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    #16
    What exactly is the dip called?

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      #17
      Berrymans ....
      Rob
      1983 1100ES, 98' ST1100, 02' DR-Z400E and a few other 'bits and pieces'
      Are you on the GSR Google Earth Map yet? http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170533

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        #18
        Originally posted by motokid837 View Post
        What exactly is the dip called?
        Berryman Chem Dip Click the link


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          #19
          And believe them when the warning says it can soak into the skin and make you sick...it happened to me and i was almost ready to cut my head off to stop the headache. was like that for over 6 hrs. Now I will not get a drop on my hands. Now I use hemos or pliers to get the bodies out of the can and then to the bucket to be rinsed.

          Rubber gloves would be the best of all worlds though.
          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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            #20
            Why are you guys insisting on the weak chem-dip? This is the dip you need to be buying:


            It's the original professional formula and you can buy it here: O'reilly's auto parts

            Doesn't come in the bucket but I just pour it into a new, unused, paint can for use.
            Last edited by JTGS850GL; 05-11-2014, 09:11 AM.
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            1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
            1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
            1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

            Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

            JTGS850GL aka Julius

            GS Resource Greetings

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              #21
              Well...seeing that the can CLEARLY use the word "REPLENISHER" I would have to say its just a REFILL for the ORIGINAL STUFF in the gallon can. I fail to see your point.
              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                #22
                Let me see if I can CLERIFY. The point is, it's not the same Chem-Dip that you get in the gallon bucket at Wally World. It's the refill (Part Number 901) for the P/N 905 professional formula. It even says on the can that you can't mix it with the 996 Chem-Dip. The 905 formula is the "OLD" Berryman's that everyone has been saying is no longer available. It comes in a 5 gallon drum. The 901 "replenishment gallon can is used to top up a cleaning vat that's had evaporation loss. The 901/905 formula works much faster and better then the 996 that is commonly sold at most parts stores. It smells like liquid moth balls.

                Edit: You can buy it at Wally World, but if you look at the link that Steve posted it's not the $18 gallon can but one of the other Berryman's options at the top of the screen that sells for $186 and comes in the 5 gallon bucket. I don't see the 1 gallon replenishment can (P/N 901) available through Walmart. See here: Berryman's Chem-Dip Professional from Wallmart
                Last edited by JTGS850GL; 05-11-2014, 02:09 PM.
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                1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                JTGS850GL aka Julius

                GS Resource Greetings

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                  #23
                  Or you can use an ultrasonic cleaner and smell like roses.
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                    #24
                    Or you can do as I do and use both. The Chem-Dip will soften and liquefy the resins but the sonic cleaner, with the proper cleaning solution, will remove the scale buildup.
                    http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
                    1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                    1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                    1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                    Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                    JTGS850GL aka Julius

                    GS Resource Greetings

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by JTGS850GL View Post
                      The Chem-Dip will soften and liquefy the resins but the sonic cleaner, with the proper cleaning solution, will remove the scale buildup.
                      I have considered getting an ultrasonic cleaner.

                      I have seen several different formulae that were suggested.

                      What do you consider to be "the proper cleaning solution"?

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                      mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                      hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                      #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                      #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                      Family Portrait
                      Siblings and Spouses
                      Mom's first ride
                      Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                      (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                        #26
                        There are a number of commercially available solutions, but the one that I've used with great success is the Simple Green Pro HD. I've only found it available through Home Depot and it's purple, not green. I use it straight and it does an excellent job without dulling the aluminum parts.

                        Really, one of the concerns that's overlooked when using a sonic cleaner is the density of the fluid. You just don't want a fluid that's too thick or you wont get adequate cavitation. Of course you don't want to use anything that's flammable either.

                        Edit: Just to add to this, you want to consider what you're trying to clean and what contaminant is being removed. I use the HD Pro because it is designed to not damage metal and is also designed to be a degreaser. Both are applicable in the case of cleaning carbs.
                        Last edited by JTGS850GL; 05-11-2014, 03:51 PM.
                        http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
                        1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                        1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                        1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                        Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                        JTGS850GL aka Julius

                        GS Resource Greetings

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                          #27
                          Okay, so I disassemble the carbs 100% and follow the guide on BikeCliffs website. I soak all 4 carbs as instructed. Will I then need to sync all of the carbs again? That is the only part that scares me.

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                            #28
                            anytime you take them apart you shoulkd go thru all the resyncing proceedures
                            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                              #29
                              Yes, you'll need to do a bench sync and then a vacuum sync. The bench sync will probably be close but the vacuum sync is a must. Don't be too concerned with doing the vacuum sync. If you have the right tool it's really a no brainer. I do recommend picking up the MotionPro adjustment tool. It makes doing the adjustment a simple process. What sync gauge set to use is up to you but I do have a Morgan Carbtune and it does work great. It's a little pricier then some but I felt it was a good investment and it's a breeze to use. You should pick up a set of brass vacuum adaptors as the ones that come with the Carbtune are junk. They do sell the brass adaptors separately.
                              http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
                              1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                              1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                              1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                              Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                              JTGS850GL aka Julius

                              GS Resource Greetings

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                                #30
                                If you manage to survive the carb dip (and this thread), the carb sync (first bench sync, then see link below) will be easy!

                                1981 gs650L

                                "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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