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Old guy
It's just a simple manometer arrangement. I shot a short video but haven't uploaded it.
The vacuum cleaner will pull so many inches of water up a tube when deadheaded. Any leak will reduce vacuum, i.e. Throttle opening, and the water won't come up as high.
Adjusting the blades to pull the same amount of water up the tube, "syncs" them.
So it's just a loop of tube running up high enough to keep from sucking all the way up. One end in a cup of water, the middle up, other end fitted to the vacuum cleaner hose.
It not "rocket surgery"
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Originally posted by Old guy View PostIt's just a simple manometer arrangement. I shot a short video but haven't uploaded it.
The vacuum cleaner will pull so many inches of water up a tube when deadheaded. Any leak will reduce vacuum, i.e. Throttle opening, and the water won't come up as high.
Adjusting the blades to pull the same amount of water up the tube, "syncs" them.
So it's just a loop of tube running up high enough to keep from sucking all the way up. One end in a cup of water, the middle up, other end fitted to the vacuum cleaner hose.
It not "rocket surgery"http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
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850GT_Rider
Originally posted by Old guy View PostAdjusting the blades to pull the same amount of water up the tube, "syncs" them.
Eyeball, drill bit, feeler gauge, whatever, is good enough for the bench. Slap 'em on, crank it up, and balance them using a quality manometer (aka carb guage).
Done
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Originally posted by JTGS850GL View PostNow if you want to go into great detail, then discussing methods to get your final sync would seem more productive.
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Originally posted by JTGS850GL View PostCome on guys... Can't you see that it was meant as light humor?
My point was simply that a bench sync is just a short term thing to get the bike started. Weather you use a pin, a flow bench or your eyes is irrelevant. All you're really trying to achieve is a "close enough" sync so you can do the proper sync for your engine's condition using a proper tool. It's not rocket science at that level. I use a thin feeler gauge and that seems to work for me.
Now if you want to go into great detail, then discussing methods to get your final sync would seem more productive. That's where things get more critical. Lots of potential science there to entertain the mind as well.Ed
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Originally posted by Old guy View Post
Please report back how much adjustment is required after install.
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Originally posted by Old guy View Post
THAT took up half of the garage.
(and I had to turn my computer sideways to see it)
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mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
#1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
#2 son: 1980 GS1000G
Family Portrait
Siblings and Spouses
Mom's first ride
Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
(Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)
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GSX1000E
I LOVE the thinking outside of the box to home brew a system to mimic a running engine with so few household items. Genius!
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Originally posted by nejeff View PostI appreciate the ingenuity on some level but aren't you just going to vac sync once they are on the bike anyway?
Changing valve clearances will change how much that cylinder can breathe, which will change the amount of vacuum it produces, because it still has the same restriction (the throttle blade).
Yep, you will need to do it more than once, unless you sell the bike, but you will need to do a sync on the next bike.
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mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
#1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
#2 son: 1980 GS1000G
Family Portrait
Siblings and Spouses
Mom's first ride
Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
(Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)
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