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    #16
    Originally posted by Gregory View Post
    I looked and must be missing something..... it looks like they are having a special at 64euro and 3euro shipping? Which is $ 91.3874 USD EDIT: I just ordered the combo with colortune ..for $90E which should work out to about $123 delivered to my door
    Yes, I also note the 67 Euro price, but when I plug that into the currency convertor, I get $112+.


    Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
    The Morgan does come with cheap plastic fittings, but its easy enough to make some good ones in the best length to fit your engine. Other than that it's great, super easy to use. The liquid tube ones will do, but it's a lot more difficult to use, especially when the mercury or whatever they use spills out.
    Z1 sells some brass adapters that will replace the "cheap plastic fittings" quite nicely.

    I have a Motion Pro unit here that uses the blue liquid. One of the tubes has a leak. Tried fixing it once, not sure if I want to try it again.

    For now, I will stick with my mercury sticks, but (if) when they fail, I will get a Carbtune. I have had my mercury sticks for 34 years, they still show no signs of giving up.


    Originally posted by Chromedome View Post
    Hi, don't mean to confuse matters further but those gauges look amazingly like,I mean exactly like ones I bought a couple of years ago in UK but in a better box, the ones I got were in a much smaller cardboard box on which it said economy gauges and made in Taiwan. That said they seemed to preform perfectly well and I never had any problems stabilizing the gauge needles as each gauge came with its own individual damper. From what I understand if you need Professional and Quality then it's Morgan but these have done me ok. Hope this helps but pretty sure it won't LOL.
    The biggest problem with dial-type gauges is that you have to check calibration on them every time you use them, to make sure they are all reading the same, before you put them to use on the engine.


    Originally posted by Vmass View Post
    I can't quite put my hands on it, but something is telling me this is a nice set:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTION-PRO-S...3D160627057197
    Yes, it's a nice set. The gauges aren't bad, either.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Steve View Post
      Yes, I also note the 67 Euro price, but when I plug that into the currency convertor, I get $112+.
      just checked now

      67 EUR
      =
      91.46758 USD


      67(EUR) Euro(EUR) To US Dollar(USD) Currency Exchange Today - Foreign Currency Exchange Rates and Currency Converter Calculator

      Real time exchange rates, highly accurate. 67 Euro to US Dollar, 67 EUR to USD Currency Converter


      they all seem to be about the same...

      .

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        #18
        Originally posted by GateKeeper View Post
        just checked now

        67 EUR
        =
        91.46758 USD


        67(EUR) Euro(EUR) To US Dollar(USD) Currency Exchange Today - Foreign Currency Exchange Rates and Currency Converter Calculator

        Real time exchange rates, highly accurate. 67 Euro to US Dollar, 67 EUR to USD Currency Converter


        they all seem to be about the same...

        .

        I ended up ordering the combo kit (with colortune) that was 90euro = $ 122.8671
        82 gs1100e FAUX Skunk
        80 gs1000s

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          #19
          I use the Motion Pro Syncpro and am happy with it. I'll preface by saying I have never synced carbs before and used the Syncpro for the first time yesterday. I read all the horror stories about fluid getting sucked in. I had no such problem. I followed the instructions to the letter and the Syncpro performed very well. It took no more than 20 minutes from calibration to completion. I was looking at the Morgan Carbtune as well and it looks like a great device. But I got a great deal on the Motion Pro which is why I chose it over the Morgan.

          Cheers!
          K

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            #20
            If anyone around Colorado want a set of mercury sticks, I have one I no longer use.

            Can't ship it with the mercury, but I can send them without it if you can get some to refill it.
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              #21
              Why can't you just get 4 of these: http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/...B4AA5wZN_D_BwE

              With some cheap nylon hose from lowes and make your own adapters from 1/8" copper tube. Probably could make them for less than 50$.

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                #22
                Originally posted by jbthomp View Post
                Why can't you just get 4 of these: http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/...B4AA5wZN_D_BwE

                With some cheap nylon hose from lowes and make your own adapters from 1/8" copper tube. Probably could make them for less than 50$.
                You can do that, but the needles will bounce all over the place. Those metal tube Carbtune gauges are vastly superior.
                Ed

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                  #23
                  I built a set of gauges similar to those above in 1975 to synch the VM style carbs on my Honda 550 Four Supersport. At first the needles did bounce all over the place. After explaining the problem to the supplier, they provided "snubbers" to fit in the gauge inlets to damp the needles. Thereafter the gauges worked fine.

                  I cannot remember the spec of the Honda carbs, but the allowable range was about 5 divisions on the gauge. Calibration was not a problem, as the difference between the 4 gauges was only about 1 division, when connected to the same carb.



                  I used to take time to synch the carbs to exactly the same reading on all the gauges. When I traded the Honda in on a new GS850G, the salesman said that he had never heard that model Honda idle so smoothly!

                  Until today these gauges are still used to synch the CV carbs on my GS850G!
                  Last edited by 2BRacing; 05-26-2014, 03:14 PM. Reason: Added info
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                  1981 GS1000G "Leo" (Bike Of The Month August 2023)

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by jbthomp View Post
                    Why can't you just get 4 of these: http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/...B4AA5wZN_D_BwE

                    With some cheap nylon hose from lowes and make your own adapters from 1/8" copper tube. Probably could make them for less than 50$.
                    Because you will STILL have the problem of matching them to each other whenever you use them.

                    .
                    sigpic
                    mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                    hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                    #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                    #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                    Family Portrait
                    Siblings and Spouses
                    Mom's first ride
                    Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                    (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Vmass View Post
                      I can't quite put my hands on it, but something is telling me this is a nice set:

                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTION-PRO-S...3D160627057197


                      My set looked nowhere that umm good.
                      sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
                      1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
                      2015 CAN AM RTS


                      Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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                        #26
                        That ebay vacuum gauge will work but consensus with pros is they are cheap crap. A good vacuum gauge sync tool will cost a pretty penny, cheap dial gauges don't hold up against the wild fluttering/vacuum swings a bike can dish out.

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                          #27
                          I ordered my Carbtune today. It came to 67 pounds, which included a pouch and shipping.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Vmass View Post
                            I ordered my Carbtune today. It came to 67 pounds, which included a pouch and shipping.
                            I received the Carbtune in 7 days from order date. Looks like a cool tool.....My plan was to order the sync tool from Z1 so I would have it when the Carbtune arrived.....oh, well....plenty of other things to do this weekend.

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                              #29
                              Ordered a Morgan Carbtune yesterday after reading reviews. Did think about the dial type but didn't want to be calibrating each time also they look a bit bulky to store. Paid £67 all in with the case too as they are doing a special deal at the moment. Hopefully here tomorrow to try it at the weekend. Just need to find out what im actually adjusting on the carbs? Pilot air screws or the linkages? Keep reading conflicting info

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                                #30
                                You need to adjust the linkage screws when you synch the carbs. Be sure to follow the correct order as described in the manual.

                                As a bonus, when you tweak the idle mixture using the highest idle method, you will also be able to observe the optimum point as the highest reading on the gauges.
                                1981 GS850G "Blue Magic" (Bike Of The Month April 2009)

                                1981 GS1000G "Leo" (Bike Of The Month August 2023)

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