Bike is shop bound.....

[JTGS850GL]

Wow... Two missing air jets and it still runs well. That's amazing!

[chuck hahn]

True that..seems those two cylinders would be real lean and even harder to get dialed in. Remove one thats there and see what the number on it isand see if someone has them.

[Steve]

I dropped out quite a while back, due to your unwillingness to accept suggestions.

We suggested an airbox, you fought it. You have finally gotten one (and found that we were right).

We suggested cleaning the carbs, you said they were cleaned, now we find that the plugs are still on the mixture screws.

Now we find that the pilot air jets are being called "screws" and are being adjusted.

It was suggested to turn the mixture screws out 2 1/2 turns from lightly-seated, then fine-tune from there.
Now you say that you set them all to 2 turns and it won't run.

See why I dropped out? I am as patient as the next guy, but ...

When you realize that some of us just might know what we are talking about and start accepting some of the suggestions offered,
you might be amazed that you will soon have a well-running bike.

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[posplayr]

I dropped out quite a while back, due to your unwillingness to accept suggestions.

We suggested an airbox, you fought it. You have finally gotten one (and found that we were right).

We suggested cleaning the carbs, you said they were cleaned, now we find that the plugs are still on the mixture screws.

Now we find that the pilot air jets are being called "screws" and are being adjusted.

It was suggested to turn the mixture screws out 2 1/2 turns from lightly-seated, then fine-tune from there.
Now you say that you set them all to 2 turns and it won't run.

See why I dropped out? I am as patient as the next guy, but ...

When you realize that some of us just might know what we are talking about and start accepting some of the suggestions offered,
you might be amazed that you will soon have a well-running bike.

.

You can lead a horse to water, but so why do we always have to carry the horse?

[kdupont]

No I didn't take the mixture plugs out at first when I cleaned the carbs, they are now out. The bike runs right now, just needs the "fine tuning" as you guys are talking about. I cant do a carb balance on the bike bc there are no vacuum ports.

Chuck, thank you, I will remove one of the others and look for some numbers to find replacments.

[Steve]

No I didn't take the mixture plugs out at first when I cleaned the carbs, they are now out.

Because the plugs were not removed when you "cleaned" the carbs, we can only continue to wonder about how well the carbs were "cleaned".

To properly clean the carbs, they need to be soaked in some rather harsh chemicals. Those chemicals tend to destroy rubber bits. The o-ring that is around the mixture screw under that plug is one of those "rubber bits".

Because we know that that o-ring was not changed, we can only continue to wonder whether the rest of the o-rings were changed.

I cant do a carb balance on the bike bc there are no vacuum ports.

The wonder continues. Do you know what you are looking for?

Here it is, straight from the service manual (you do have a manual, don't you?):



I'm out.

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[posplayr]

Because the plugs were not removed when you "cleaned" the carbs, we can only continue to wonder about how well the carbs were "cleaned".

To properly clean the carbs, they need to be soaked in some rather harsh chemicals. Those chemicals tend to destroy rubber bits. The o-ring that is around the mixture screw under that plug is one of those "rubber bits".

Because we know that that o-ring was not changed, we can only continue to wonder whether the rest of the o-rings were changed.



The wonder continues. Do you know what you are looking for?

Here it is, straight from the service manual (you do have a manual, don't you?):



I'm out.

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But Steve don't we get second chances for looking at the clymer motor cycle maintenance collage?

[chuck hahn]

Take some fine steel wool and clean the faces of the air jets..should be a number on them..which is the size.

[kdupont]

Steve, my bike does not have those ports on the intake boots. I know that its suppose to, but it doesn't. Im not sure as to why but they aren't there.

[JTGS850GL]

Are you sure that the boots aren't mounted backwards so the ports point inward instead of outward like they're supposed to? They wouldn't be obvious and visible. If not then you simply have the incorrect boots and will have no way to perform the vacuum sync.

[kdupont]

JTG, I pulled the boots off to have a better look at them and nothing. They've gotta be the wrong boots for this bike.

[chuck hahn]

Then youll need proper ones to be able to do the carb syncs correctly.

[kdupont]

dang....more money that I don't have.

[tkent02]

You could drill new vacuum ports. Put them up on top where you can get to them easily. Having them hidden underneath where you can't get to them is ludicrous, a complete failure on Suzuki's part to think about what they were doing..

[chuck hahn]

Welcome to untangling previous owners ingenius fixes..thats why they sold the bike!!!!