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    carb dip.....can't seem to find any! help!!

    So after do a ****y job of cleaning my carbs I have taken them off again to clean and put new o rings in but can't fund any kind of carb dip. I have looked at Canadian tire, Napa and all the other suspects in my airea . the closes stuff I found was called "parts cleaner" http://m.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/rele...-0381340p.html
    Would something like that work? Is there a product that works for carbs that hide under a different name?

    Adam

    PS I am in Canada.

    #2
    Yamaha makes a carb cleaner that I have heard many say is as good as the Berrymans. I am sure the Canadian guys that have been thru the mill will be along to add thier advice.
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      #3
      Adam, the only dip i know about in Canada is Kleen-Flo.
      Napa used to carry it but i would call around to the usual suspects. Advance, Carquest.
      About $50.00 for the gallon. Wear gloves and use it outside or you will be sleeping outside.
      2@ \'78 GS1000

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        #4
        Check out Walmart, they carry Barrymans carburetor dip in the US, they might up there.
        http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ine=1440711157'78 GS1000E, Dyna-S ignition, Dyna Green Coils, K&N pods, Delkevic SS 4-1 exhaust, Dynojet Stage 3 jet kit, Russell SS Brake Lines, Progressive suspension, Compu-Fire series Regulator 55402 and Advmonster cree LED headlight conversion.

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          #5
          I used some of the "parts" cleaner, which didn't do a good job on the bodies at all. To be really effective the solution needs to be in a parts washer (aka Dish Washer) that agitates the solution, or an ultrasonic cleaner.

          The best thing I have found was lemon juice. 50/50 mix with water, and let sit for about 20 minutes. I watched a video on YouTube, and the guys making the videos tend to heat up the lemon juice on a stove top first, but I didn't find that to be necessary. After the lemon juice I hose it down with lots of carb cleaner to get rid of moisture and the lemon juice. Word of warning though, I wouldn't let the carb bodies sit in the lemon juice over night, and if your bodies are polished, you will need to polish them again!

          I have also heard pure methyl hydrate works well too, but I didn't try this yet.


          Cheers,
          Shawn.


          Shawn.

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            #6
            Originally posted by OldVet66 View Post
            Check out Walmart, they carry Barrymans carburetor dip in the US, they might up there.
            Won't be finding Berrymans anywhere in Canada, unfortunately!

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              #7
              Try an auto supply store, in Ottawa we have Mac's Auto supply. They sell to garages. Having used the Kleen flo I would not go that route again. Nasty stinky stuff. I ended up purchasing a small sonic cleaner and some carb cleaner that they had for that. The other alternative is to find out if the CVMG ( Canadian Vintage Motorcycle club) chapter in your area has one that you can borrow. Our section in Ottawa just got one recently. The sonic cleaner and tank that I bought was from Sharpertec. in the US. Although it is costly to ship across the border from them. Cost an extra $90 in duties, taxes and other fees. Another product that I experimented with that removed 95% of the sediment in the float bowls is a little known chemical from Benjamin Moore paints called KP83. It was designed to degrease the walls and floors in the slaughterhouse industry. It turns grease into detergent. Also great for removing pine pitch from sawblades. I tried it on a set of carbs, however they turn black if left in overnight. Other than that in 15 minutes I was able to remove most of the sediment in the float bowls.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Gold01ca View Post
                Won't be finding Berrymans anywhere in Canada, unfortunately!
                Yep, the environmentalists have taken anything that works away from Canada. They're chipping away at us in the US as well. Some day, the only thing that you can clean anything with will be water. And even then, that will be government certified water.
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                1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                JTGS850GL aka Julius

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                  #9
                  I'm doing a test using Seafoam in a heavily varnished float bowl.
                  After a few hours, not encouraging.
                  Will report results (if any)

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                    #10
                    For you guys in other countries that don't have the freedom* we enjoy here in the US, try boiling the carbs (once broken down) in a water/cleaner solution

                    Simple Green will work, but discolor the carb bodies. If you can find Simple Green Pro HD (the purple stuff), it doesn't discolor the bodies

                    TKent has used the SGPro several times. My Ducati carb is going inn the pot in a few hours


                    *Freedom = idiots with access to toxic chemicals that can kill them, why wear gloves?
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                    1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                    1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                    1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Big T View Post

                      ..... If you can find Simple Green Pro HD (the purple stuff), it doesn't discolor the bodies

                      Thanks for the tip on the ProHD, its available at all Canadian tires. I will give it a try tomorrow. What type of dilution are you using? 3:1 (Water to SG) ?


                      Shawn.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Big T View Post
                        For you guys in other countries that don't have the freedom* we enjoy here in the US, try boiling the carbs (once broken down) in a water/cleaner solution

                        Simple Green will work, but discolor the carb bodies. If you can find Simple Green Pro HD (the purple stuff), it doesn't discolor the bodies

                        TKent has used the SGPro several times. My Ducati carb is going inn the pot in a few hours


                        *Freedom = idiots with access to toxic chemicals that can kill them, why wear gloves?

                        How long do you boil them for?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by akiy View Post
                          How long do you boil them for?
                          Until they are tender.

                          Seriously, probably four hours or so, and I wouldn't keep them at a steady boil. Then again, I have always used Berryman's or the Gunk equivalent (without heat!), and soaked them for at least overnight. Then I used a piece of wire to clear the passages, followed by compressed air.

                          If I ever have to clean any again, I am going to try an ultrasonic cleaner with Simple Green Pro HD.
                          Last edited by Guest; 07-05-2014, 09:06 PM.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by akiy View Post
                            How long do you boil them for?
                            I just did my Dellorto that has been sitting with gas in it for about 15 years. It took about 4 hours and 3 changes of water/SG

                            You'll figure it out - if the solution stops getting dirty, that's a clean as they'll get


                            Spray out the passages with carbs cleaner, compressed air and maybe poke a wire thru
                            1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                            1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                            1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                            1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                            1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                            1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                            2007 DRz 400S
                            1999 ATK 490ES
                            1994 DR 350SES

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                              #15
                              I have heard you can use white vinegar. I have descaled coffeepots with it and it can be used as a general household cleaner so I could see it working halfway decent. You would still need to poke a wire through all the passages and scrub with a brush but even in Canada surely you can buy vinegar!

                              here is a quote I found from another site "I have had great results using vinegar, but you need to degrease the part first. I use laundry detergent and water to degrease, then 10-15 minutes in vinegar. You have to then rinse and brush the parts with water to be sure to remove all traces of the vinegar or there will be spots of corrosion later. White vinegar is 5% acetic acid and is about $2.00 at the grocery store. The ability of vinegar to remove varnish from old gas is impressive. The vinegar gets dirty after a few carb cleanings and then it can be used to remove rust on parts. I have soaked chains overnight that were rusted solid and they are very useable afterwards."

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