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    #31
    Use the baseline settings for the pilot and mixture screws. As you can see by my signature, I have GS 1000s and I know where mine are liking things. Here is what I have found to work on the VM carbs..which yours should have.

    PILOT SCREWS ( BOTTOM ONES BY THE BOWLS ) 7/8 OUT And you LEAVE THEN ALONE after setting them!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HANDS OFF!!!!!

    MIXTURE SCREWS ( ON THE SIDE OF THE CARB THROATS ) 2 OUT AS THE START POINT. Then you do ALL of the FINE TUNING from the mixture screws...period. Turning the mixture screws IN will RICHEN the mixture. OUT will LEAN the mixture. Make all adjustments NO MORE THAN 1/8 turn at a time and give the engine a few seconds to reequalise itself after making adjustments.
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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      #32
      And the sync can be affecting the response as well.
      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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        #33
        Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
        And the sync can be affecting the response as well.
        More so off idle than at 1/2 to WFO.

        Good advice from Chuck re: fine tuning the mixture using ONLY the mixture screws. FYI: The pilot screws on my EN were set at 3/4 out. There is some slight variation on that setting apparently. Record your current settings before changing them, especially if the bike is running.

        The process is not easy but it is rewarding when you get her dialed in. Enjoy it and learn from it.

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          #34
          Rudeman..the 3/4 was the factory setting far as any information I have ever been able to gleen. This, however, was at the very edge of being TOO lean because of the 70s EPA bullcrap back then.

          The 7/8 is just a slight slight bit richer.but not too rich from what I have been able to tell from how mine react. And my feeling is that I would rather be just a tad richer than too lean for the health of the valve train!!
          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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            #35
            Suzuki Service Manual: October 1979
            GS1000
            1979
            Model: C

            Idle Speed: 900 - 1100 rpm
            Carb: Mikuni VM26SS
            Id no: 49020
            Bore size: 26mm (1.023")
            Float height: 24.0mm +/- 1.0 (0.94" +/- 0.04)
            Fuel level: 4.0mm +/- 1.0mm (0.16" +/- 0.04)
            Air screw: PRE-SET (DO NOT DISTURB)
            Cut away: 1.5
            Jet needle: 5DL36-3
            Pilot Screw: PRE-SET (DO NOT DISTURB)
            Pilot Air Jet: 1.2
            Pilot Jet: 15
            Pilot Outlet: Not specified
            Needle Jet: O-2
            By-pass: Not specified
            Main jet: 95
            Main Air Jet 1.5
            Throttle Cable Free Play: 1.0 - 1.5mm (0.039"-0.059)

            1978 GS1000 (VM carbs)



            Pilot Air Jet: 1.2
            Pilot Jet : #15
            Cut-a-Way: 1.5
            Jet Needle: 5DL36-3
            Needle Jet: O-2
            Main Air Jet: 1.5
            Main Jet: #95
            Float Height: 23-25mm
            Fuel Level: 3-5mm


            here are your stock factory carb settings
            for the pilot circuit follow what chuck hahn has outlined for the pilot screws and the mixture screws



            these carbs have 3 circuits to then
            Pilot circuit = 0 to 1/4 throttle
            needle jet and jet needle = 1/4 to 3/4 throttle
            main jet = 3/4 to wide open throttle

            it would seem to me that perhaps you are having a problem with the main jet circuit by what you are describing
            i would take the carbs apart confirm that they are clean and check all your settings and jet sizes if they are all correct

            then perhaps it is a fuel starvation problem at that throttle setting.
            i had this issue with my 78 1000 the petcock was suppling enough fuel but the smaller fuel line and low flow fuel filter was causing fuel starvation at above 3/4 throttle the solution was slightly larger fuel line and a high flow fuel filter
            i use a 95 CBR 900 RR fuel filter on my bike emgo part # 14-34481
            i had 3/8 fuel line on it and i now have 7/16 fuel line and when i made this change i had no more problem with it cutting out above 3/4 throttle

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              #36
              Thank you all !!!today I got a little free time . Installed the new front break pads and the new air filter .. due to more work in the am didnt yank the carbs to throw in my 4 new #95 main jets . All my pilot jets are 15's btw .. why the previous owner had 3 - 102.5 main jets and 1 - 95 main jet makes no sence .. oh through in 4 new spark plugs tonite too .. noticed the bike was running a little better after new plugs ... work crazy hrs again sunday through to friday so maybe next weekend will have some more free times to yank the carbs again ..

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