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    650 - Dumping fuel into oil

    Guys,

    I'm just about ready to scrap the thing, so help in restoring my sanity would be appreciated!

    1981 GS-650 Katana.

    Had problems a while back where it started dumping fuel out of the carb overflow pipes when running. Extremely poor performance.

    New float valves fitted, heights etc checked and reset where needed. Performance greatly improved to the point where it would try and spit you off the back from 3000rpm upwards.

    Fast forward a month or two, and the cases have been split for a complete geartrain replacement. All back together.

    Oil level checked and re checked, as it was a dry fill (started up and checked/topped up as required repeatedly). Took it out for the first time today since. Oil level spot on (checked before I started it up).

    Went 12 miles to bike shop, to get junior a new pair of boots. Not impressed with the performance, very lethargic, didn't really take off when given gas.

    Parked up at bike shop, put on to centre stand (so I could check the oil again before I left, after it had had chance to run back down).

    When I came out, oil level was totally above the sight glass (ie over full). Oil smelled heavily of fuel.

    Any ideas as to the cause?

    The fuel valve is fine (sat for a month with a 3/4 full tank off the bike and didn't leak a drop).

    Over the 12 mile run, there was no pinking or other abnormalities heard.

    The idle speed always has been a bit hit and miss, but today it was anywhere from cutting out when coming to a stop, to sitting at 2000rpm.

    If that amount of fuel had been dumped down over 12 miles when it was running, surely I would have known about it (pinking/meltdown/clouds of smoke)?

    So far i've only been able to pull no 1 & 4 spark plugs, due to my plug socket going walkies (resident teenager? - Probably!). 1 looks a little sooty, and 4 is fine (beigy/brown colour). Pity I can't check 2 & 3 as of yet.

    I'm suspecting a carb problem of some description. The last time I had them apart (3 months ago), everything checked out fine. I'm just wondering due to the high mileage (69,000), the carb bodies have worn down, resulting in sticky pistons courtesy of excess clearance.

    Any other suggestions? Or does anybody have a set of carbs (BS32) at a reasonable price, so that I can swap them out?

    Thanks,

    J

    #2
    Check your petcock, pull the vacuum line and check for fuel there. There should not be any. It is common for the diaphram to go bad and leak there
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      #3
      Hmm.... You could be correct!

      I forgot to factor in the petcock!

      Obviously without the engine running, the spring will keep the O ring in the seat, stopping fuel flow. If there is a hole in the diaphragm.... Well yes, I remember now!

      Will check it tomorrow.

      D'oh!

      James

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        #4
        Originally posted by G0FHM View Post
        I'm just about ready to scrap the thing, so help in restoring my sanity would be appreciated!
        If it will help restore your sanity, I will be happy to scrap it for you.

        By the way, where are you?

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        mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
        hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
        #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
        #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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          #5
          Originally posted by Steve View Post
          If it will help restore your sanity, I will be happy to scrap it for you.

          By the way, where are you?

          .
          Steve,

          If it was only that simple.... It belongs to she who must be obeyed, and such a decision is ultimately not mine! I'm just the poor soul that has to put up with the damned thing

          Located in Norfolk, UK

          J

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            #6
            Originally posted by Steve View Post
            By the way, where are you?
            Originally posted by G0FHM View Post
            Located in Norfolk, UK
            Might we convince you to add that to your profile?

            Maybe even a short sig to mention the bike?

            Makes things easier down the road, you won't have to remember to mention them when you ask questions.

            .
            sigpic
            mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
            Family Portrait
            Siblings and Spouses
            Mom's first ride
            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
            (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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