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Gramps bought me a chain drive 650 4 cylinder bike for Christmas and we are working to get it running. Carbs were in a box when he got the bike and last weekend I came over to work on bike wiht him. From reading the site I understand the carb rework process but gramps had his own method. He sprayed cleanser in the mouths and then we went to putting them on. I don't think he has much or any experience with multi-carb bikes. Any way we got them back on the bike and got it to start with shooting some strater fluid and it runs a little on full choke but dies right away like it's not getting gas when you shut choke down. I realize from reading on your site that this is not preferred method to overhaul the carburetor/fuel system but how do I convince gramps? I wish he had a computer or wifi at his house, it would be a lot easier to show him the proper method.
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Would he be willing to accept a call from me?
I would be happy to call and explain it to him.
As you have seen, there is a LOT more to it than just a couple of spritzes.
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Download the carb rebuild tutorial and print it out for him. Explain that gas isn't what it use to be. Add that after years of abuse the garbage gas we buy now just gums things up faster. He'll appreciate the fact that things were better when he was younger.
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And print out this pic, so gramps can see the tiny passages his spritzing won't touch- unless all passages are cleaned out, this thing will run poorly and annoy both of you.1981 gs650L
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Take the carbs home with you, say "gramps, I got this" and do the job yourself! It takes some time to do right and is not really a two-person job anyway. Have gramps help out with the rest... but familiarize yourself with the factory service manual and the rest of the information scattered around the forum and BassCliff's site just in case. Remember that although he gave you a bike and you shouldn't take this act of generosity for granted, it's ultimately going to be your butt in the seat if something goes wrong out on the road.Comment
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He may soon figure out that his method has not been a complete successsigpic Too old, too many bikes, too many cars, too many things
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Take them when hes gonna be away for a few days and do them per the tutorial. get the orings from cycleorings.com and rebuild them without him knowing.
The have him over to reinstall them and give him his glory.....MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
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I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.Comment
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Wow, thanks for the offer Steve! I will talk to gramps again this weekend and see if he is up to calling you, gramps can be a bit funny and doesn't like talking on the phone not even to me... when he orders a pizza he goes in in person! I think maybe the best thing would be for me to print out the pics and see what he thinks.Originally posted by Steve View PostComment
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Originally posted by JTGS850GL View PostDownload the carb rebuild tutorial and print it out for him. Explain that gas isn't what it use to be. Add that after years of abuse the garbage gas we buy now just gums things up faster. He'll appreciate the fact that things were better when he was younger.Originally posted by tom203 View PostOriginally posted by eil View PostThanks everyone. Will take all the advise given and see what happens this weekendOriginally posted by chuck hahn View PostComment
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Take Steve up on his offer...Comment
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Yes, us old guys tend to this behavior-it's a survival instinct! Anyways,convince gramps that you want to do this sorta alone and are happy he will be there to back you up as needed.Originally posted by cyclepat650 View Post1981 gs650L
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Well gramps got aheadd of me and took the carbs back off the bike and took them to a shop. Shop refuses to work on them due to a broken tower (see pic). Are we screwed on this and need a new set? I have the carb set now, gramps is leaving it in my hands as he thinks I am a little more in tune with what I am doing (also he and grandma are going to Wisconsin tomorrow for a week). Where do I go from here?carbs2.jpgComment
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That broken piece should not be a problem, ya never know what is inside though.
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If the screw inside there is intact, that is absolutely not a concern.
That shop did you a huge favor by refusing to work on them. No only would they have likely done it wrong (either by not getting things clean or further mucking things up), but they would have deprived you of your money and the truly invaluable experience of learning to do it yourself.
Get your o-ring kit, follow the instructions, make sure you have all of the tools and supplies you need, have confidence in your capabilities, and take your time. When you're all done, put them back on the bike and if it doesn't idle beautifully with fresh gas, I'll eat my hat.Comment
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Yes, there is a screw in there for sure. I think your right, we probably dodged a bullet. Now just got to get the funds together for cleaners, orings, ect. I'm a week away from paydayOriginally posted by eil View Post
I am acutally looking forward to it but also a little concerned. I have spent at least a couple hours just reading carb threads and so many have trouble after the fact, I assume not following protocol. I'm going to go nice and slow and try to do it right the first time. BTW I love this site! 
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