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    Magic formula for jet sizes?

    So....I am bringing back this old GS1100gl back from the dead. I was wondering if there was some magic formula for determining jet sizes in relation to each other(main to pilot to pilot air)? I had looked around Bikecliff's site and couple others and couldn't find what I was looking for.
    Basically I have a 83 GS1100gl it is all stock ignition, exhaust and air box(with factory filter). I have #115 mains #160 pilot airs and #45 pilots.
    I don't see where any of the jet sizes I have match with any one of 1983 model years listed on Bikecliff's site. Any input would be helpful.
    Thanks
    Paul G.

    #2
    Keep in mind that the shafties were tuned a bit differently than the other 1100s, mainly because of the 2-valve vs 4-valve heads.

    My chart says the '82 and '83 1100 shafties should have 115 mains, 40 pilot fuel, 170 pilot air.

    Your 45 pilots are two sizes larger, which might enhance cold engine behavior a bit, but possibly at the expense of some fuel mileage. Your 160 pilot air jets are also making it run a bit richer, with the same possible results.

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      #3
      Here's a nice link I've found very helpful:



      If you look at the 82-83 US model type K you'll see what Steve was saying as the stock size jets. Since you're bike will be basically stock, you shouldn't need anything more then maybe fattening up the mixture screws.
      http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
      1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
      1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
      1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

      Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

      JTGS850GL aka Julius

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        #4
        And heres a chart for knowing what the next size up would be.....

        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #5
          Stock bike = stock jetting.

          The jetting info is contained in the factory Suzuki service manual.
          Ed

          To measure is to know.

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            #6
            And here I have found a pilot jet chart...Guy is referencing his 650 but it has all the VM and BS sizes progressively listed.

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            Last edited by chuck hahn; 03-01-2015, 10:06 AM.
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              #7
              Well, I ended up finding some #180 pilot-air jets. Since my bike will see around 500-800+ miles per week commuting to and from work the extra fuel mileage will be an asset. Of course an 1100 might not be the most fuel efficient choice but, that is what I have.

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                #8
                Nice that you found some 180s, but be aware that leaner is not always better for fuel mileage.

                These bikes were already a bit lean from the factory, so going even leaner might be going the wrong direction.

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                mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                Family Portrait
                Siblings and Spouses
                Mom's first ride
                Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                  #9
                  Yes..TOO lean burns valves and holes in pistons!!!
                  MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                  1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                  NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                  I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                    #10
                    I'll leave the #160's in it and see how it runs. But the carbs are spotless clean, floats are set, o-rings, bench sync'ed(waiting for the vacuum synchronizers to show up this week) are new everything in there is in great shape. I replaced the factory fuel pet-cock after losing about half a gallon down the cylinder's and my floor. Oil has been changed....now if I could just do something about this weather.

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                      #11
                      Best bet is to put in new plugs and ride it a while and pull the plugs to see what they look like. Plugs chops are good for initial setup too. But once i get one of my bike to where I think it should be, I put in new plugs and actually ride it as I would regularly and under real use conditions and then take a peek. Color and/or sootiness is gonna tell you a lot.
                      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                        #12
                        I'll give it a shot this weekend depending on the weather. Thanks everyone.
                        Last edited by Guest; 03-03-2015, 01:49 AM.

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