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    #16
    Thanks...I had not seen that pic before. Is that from your service manual??
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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      #17
      So basically what i have read and the way I have understood it is reverse? the kidney bean shaped area is actually supplying the equalization air for the bottom of the diaprams so the vacuum can suck them up..right???
      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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        #18
        Now you have it right. The hole (number 6 in the diagram above) is exactly the one that I was referring to. That's the hole that supplies vacuum to the top side of the diaphragm through the slide. It's the passage that is enlarged when using the DJ stage 3 kit. The large opening at the front of the carb supplies atmospheric reference to the area below the diaphragm. There's also a smaller passage that leads from the area below the diaphragm to the throat (engine side) of the venturi path and another that feeds the air to the starter circuit. Not exactly sure what the purpose of the passage that leads back to the venturi does. Maybe used to meter the response of the slide.
        http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
        1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
        1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
        1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

        Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

        JTGS850GL aka Julius

        GS Resource Greetings

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          #19
          Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
          Thanks...I had not seen that pic before. Is that from your service manual??
          Service manual? I don't need no such thing- I got the gsresources! Hopefully the internet stays on.
          1981 gs650L

          "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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            #20
            Just for completeness, I took another look at that drilled passage that comes from the area under the diaphragm and into the area between the engine and the throttle plate. Seems like it's the passage used for the starter circuit. Air enters the passage through the oval shaped opening at the front of the carb. It then moves to the drilled passage under the diaphragm. When the start circuit path is opened the air moves down through that passage and then is mixed with fuel as the plunger is pulled out. The air/fuel mixture then exits into the venturi passage AFTER the throttle plate. Now it makes sense why opening the throttle, when you have the choke on, screws up the mixture.
            http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
            1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
            1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
            1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

            Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

            JTGS850GL aka Julius

            GS Resource Greetings

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              #21
              Originally posted by JTGS850GL View Post
              Just for completeness, ?.." Now it makes sense why opening the throttle, when you have the choke on, screws up the mixture.
              Sure does, mine falls flat on its face! Thanks for explanation- this just might make those got-to-have pods guys think twice
              1981 gs650L

              "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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                #22
                I always had thought them hole in the slide was for transferring air from one side to the other so they would fall smoother and quicker. VMs are mechanically linked and the hole in them allows air to go from below to top for what I think is this very reason.

                Then I read threads here about drilling the holes larger so they fall and react even quicker.
                MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                  #23
                  It makes sense if you think of the hole as a fluid transfer conduit. The larger the hole the more volume of air that can move through it. This would make the slides react quicker because the pressure change would occur faster. Faster in, faster out means quicker response in both directions.
                  http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
                  1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                  1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                  1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                  Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                  JTGS850GL aka Julius

                  GS Resource Greetings

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