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    Coughs Out After a few miles

    Okay guys, here's yet another "won't run right" thread.

    Symptoms:
    Starts and idles fine. Runs fine for a few miles. Starts to cough out, mostly at high speed/accelleration, running on 3 cylinders intermittently. Pulled the plugs and most look fine although number 3 looks pretty white.

    Things I've done:
    Valves have been shimmed.
    Carbs have been stripped and dipped with new o rings. Mixture screws set at 2.5 turns out. Vacuum synched.
    Fuel and vacuum hoses replaced.
    All new boots and carb boot o rings.
    Sealed the air box and replaced air filter (although I noticed it's dripping oil so maybe I over oiled it?)
    Plugs gapped.
    Gas cap cleaned out.

    Things I haven't checked or replaced yet but will do shortly:
    Petcock behaves normally but maybe a clogged filter would do this?
    Coils
    Timing

    Is there anything else to take a look at? As you might imagine, it's been pretty disheartening to do all that work and still have it run poorly :\
    Last edited by Guest; 04-20-2015, 01:18 PM.

    #2
    Float height or petcock are my thoughts
    1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
    1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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      #3
      Make sure your petcock is behaving "normally" by testing -at least pull fuel line off , turn to prime and watch flow. The petcock filter might be gunked up restricting delivery especially at low tank level. Also try running on "PR" spot and try leaving gas cap loose in case your cap vent cleaning didn't work.
      Squeeze excess oil out of air filter .
      1981 gs650L

      "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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        #4
        I didnt see anything in the original post about vacuum syncing them..has that been done? If the sync isnt done you may also have the number 3 butterfly closed a tad too much in relationship to the others. This would acct for the "intermittent" firing of that cylinder. You can loosen the adjuster nut and turn the adjuster screw a little with the bike running to see if the #3 fires off better.

        And it sounds like the classic fuel starvation symptoms of a malfunctioning petcock on the dying after a few miles. I would inspect it to see if its working right. In the ON position, take a length of vac hose and put on the small nipple of the petcock while holding a catcher under the fuel line nipple. Suck on the vac line to see if fuel flows..should be a good solid stream and not just a trickling. If it just trickles, that would lead me to see what the petcock internal filter looks like..which was already mentioned above.
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #5
          Okay so now it seems to only want to run on 3 cylinders even at startup so the petcock can probably be ruled out (let it sit at prime for a few seconds before starting to fill the floats). Number 4 is the troublemaker. It is getting spark although my coils are only getting about 10.5 volts.
          Last edited by Guest; 04-21-2015, 10:38 PM.

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            #6
            I would get that 10.5 improved. For the moment swap 1 and 4 ht leads and see if the problem moves to No. 1 cylinder.
            97 R1100R
            Previous
            80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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              #7


              I think I did a different version of this, maybe by BikeCliff himself but couldn't find the link. At any rate, it helped a lot.

              Maybe here.
              Last edited by 1948man; 04-23-2015, 06:25 PM.
              1983 GS 1100 Guided Laser
              1983 GS 1100 G
              2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500, "Piggy Sue"
              2000 GSF 1200 Bandit (totaled in deer strike)
              1986 Suzuki Cavalcade GV 1400 LX (SOLD)

              I find working on my motorcycle mildly therapeutic when I'm not cursing.

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                #8
                I got back over a Volt to the coils without doing the relay thing but it was a lot of work. Kill switch, ignition switch, fusebox and the wiring plugs at the coils all had to be torn down and sorted. I rode bikes of this era new back then and never had electrical problems. I can only surmise that old age is finally catching up with these machines. I'm fairly confident I have it sorted but have the distinct impression that glass fuses aren't being made to the standards they once were and see a blade box in the future.
                97 R1100R
                Previous
                80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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                  #9
                  Mission Accomplished. Got the relay mod done and am now at 12+ volts. It's never ran better! Thanks, guys!

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                    #10
                    Just to follow-up on this thread, I noticed that the voltage at the battery was a little low (13.5v at 4K rpms) so I went to do the stator test procedure only to discover that 2 of the 3 bullet connectors on wiring between the stator and the R/R had corroded and melted into each other. Oops! Replacing those got me a full volt back.

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                      #11
                      you may as well go and do the charging system health mod. what that involves is basically removing the headlamp leg and wire the stator straight to the r/r. and you could go and upgrade that r/r to the sh-775 series r/r. doing this eliminates the potential for electrical contact/wire corrosion and having said connections and wires go way past well done due to the increased resistance.

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