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    Boiling carb bodies

    I've rebuilt carbs on different bikes quite a few times and always used the 'good' Berryman's, which I no longer have. I'm getting ready to do it again and have seen lots of sites that recommend boiling the carb bodies. My carbs are reasonably clean so I'm wondering if this might be a good way to go in order to clear out any clogs in the system. Has anyone performed this task with just, plain water...and had good success? I don't need guesses because I've already guessed. If you've done it and think it's either a bad or a good idea, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Thanks!
    1980 GS1100E, the latest of many.

    #2
    Heat might help to soften some of the 'gunk', but you still need some sort of solvent and surfactant to remove it and clean the residuals.

    Yes, that's just a guess, but that is my thinking. Try it, see how it works, post the results (good or bad).

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      #3
      add a bay leaf just to be sure

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        #4
        Even though it's reported to work well, I've got a little warning signal in the back of my head. Maybe a short bath in MEK or acetone would be a better idea. Oh, and a bay leaf would be a nice touch.
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          #5
          Do you not have Berryman's, GUNK (brand) or Yamaha carb dip available there? Those are all known to work well.

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          hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
          #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
          #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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            #6
            The CV carbs have throttle shaft seals trapped inside the body. Berryman's doesn't seem to mess with them too much so I'd keep to known chemicals like Steve alludes.
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              #7
              I've boiled the bodies but not for cleaning as much as for rinsing and removing trapped moisture. Once I clean them I've boiled them for a minute or two to heat up the bodies and rinse the cleaning solvent residue. When taken out of the boil bath they dry within seconds. Never damaged anything. Now I always use the Berrymans good stuff first, sonic clean second, poke and sprits with carb cleaner last. Don't boil anymore. I wouldn't trust the boiling as an only process for cleaning. It wont loosen and dissolve the tough stuff.
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                #8
                Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                The CV carbs have throttle shaft seals trapped inside the body. Berryman's doesn't seem to mess with them too much so I'd keep to known chemicals like Steve alludes.
                Yeah, that's my concern as well. When I cleaned my first set of carbs (about 25 years ago), Berryman's worked absolutely great. The next time I bought it, it smelled much different and didn't work nearly as well.

                The short boiling cycle seems like it would be safe, no matter what but I also agree that something more would be needed before reassembly.
                Last edited by rockford; 06-14-2015, 10:11 AM.
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                  #9
                  I swear by ultrasonic cleaning. No harmfull chemicals and unlike carb dip where the part just sits there, ultrasonic cleaning solution is always moving, scouring those tiny passages clean better than any other method.
                  80 gs1100 16-v ported & polished, 1 mm oversize intake valves, 1150 carbs w/Dynojet stage 3, plus Bandit/gsxr upgrades

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                    #10
                    I read somewhere on here that someone had used boiling water after dipping in preparation for painting the bodies. Would this be thesame thing? Didn't say how long they boiled them.
                    Larry

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                      #11
                      I think it was Tkent who had a post on boiling carbs about a year ago

                      I tried it with Simple Green HD (the purple stuff) and had good results boiling for an hour

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                        #12
                        thanks, I wanted to do something to them before painting. I will be using vht paint to beautify them a bit. Seems like the most intricate part will be masking them and plugging holes that won't be painted.

                        Any good tips or advice would be welcomed.
                        Larry

                        '79 GS 1000E
                        '93 Honda ST 1100 SOLD-- now residing in Arizona.
                        '18 Triumph Tiger 800 (gone too soon)
                        '19 Triumph Tiger 800 Christmas 2018 to me from me.
                        '01 BMW R1100RL project purchased from a friend, now for sale.

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                          #13
                          I have an old oval crock pot, and I have used it a lot with Berryman's chemdip in it. That rig cleans like crazy. I only use the warm and low settings, a lot of solvents in it will boil it off if you get it too hot. The heat accelerates the cleaning quite a bit. It sounds strange, but when I was out of town at a friends shop he showed me something that I probably wouldnt have believed if he just told me. Pinesol mixed 50 50 with water cleans carbs great when heated to 180 to 200F. It is cheap easily available and there is no problem disposing of it. I am still a berrymans nut, love the stuff. I have been using it for 30 years. I have also used lacquer thinner it is a lot like the spray can carb cleaner products. DONT heat it, it is super flammable. Most of the spray can products have other things to cut down on the petroleum (most expensive) ingredients. Alcohol and other ingredients are used to stretch the petroleum solvent.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by metalfab View Post
                            . Pinesol mixed 50 50 with water cleans carbs great when heated to 180 to 200F. It is cheap easily available and there is no problem disposing of it.
                            That sounds like a great alternative. Going to try that, with the crock pot, during the wife's next business trip.

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                              #15
                              There is quite a lot of information in the internet about using Pinsol and it must work pretty well. I looked at a label a couple of weeks ago and saw something interesting. It comes in 2 'flavors'; original and lemon. One of the labels said it wasn't good for extended use on aluminum but the other label didn't mention it. In any case, I'll bet it would take a long time to do any damage.

                              What I decided to do this time around was disassemble them, wash them in soapy water, rinse them, give them a short bath in MEK (about an hour), and thoroughly rinse them. After that, I pressure-flushed all the passageways with a 50cc syringe and large IV line, which seemed to work really well. Then, I dried them with a shop-vac blower and took them to a tire shop and blew them out with compressed air. I would have no qualms about using one of them for a beer mug......if they would hold enough beer.
                              1980 GS1100E, the latest of many.

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