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    GS850 Fuel pouring out of the port on top of the motor that connects to the airbox

    So I have been offered a 1982 Suzuki GS850 for free. The catch is I have to get it running. Owner told me carbs were dumping fuel. After getting the carbs cleaned and put back together with the help of his friend Matt we fire it up and it is dumping a fuel/oil mix from the top of the motor. It appears to be a port that connects to the top of the air box via a rubber hose. I am looking for anyone who may have any knowledge. I am beyond my realm of knowledge and will be searching forums all night and then trying to fix it tomorrow by myself (which should be interesting). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    #2
    If you have fuel pouring out that hole, ... STOP.

    The only way fuel can be coming out that port is if the entire engine is full of gas, meaning you have some SERIOUS problems.
    That port is a vent that removes any combustion blow-by fumes and sends them back through the engine to be burnt.

    It is possible that someone has connected fuel lines incorrectly to cause this, but you need to drain the oil (and fuel) from the engine, put fresh oil in, then start from scratch.

    Please post your location, one of us is probably close enough to lend a hand.

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    hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
    #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
    #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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      #3
      I am located in West Bend WI. Draining and starting over is where I was going to start this morning. I was reading how if the petcock was stuck and fuel was draining the whole time it sat, which was over a year, that fuel could have gotten into the crank case. SOOOO I will start by draining, refilling, running, re draining to get residual fuel out of the crank case, refill and see where we are at.

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        #4
        Time for a little maintenance eh? Best to take care of a few things before something gets damaged.

        Check the Newbie Mistakes thread linked in my signature.
        Ed

        To measure is to know.

        Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

        Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

        Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

        KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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          #5
          Thanks Ed. Tons of great info there. I will take the advice!

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            #6
            Not COULD HAVE!!! It DID fill the crank case. Get a new p[etcock right off. Have two or three drain apns at the ready or be real quick at getting the drain plug back in as the pan fills. Likely to be 3 or 4 gallons of liquid in there.
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              #7
              Had the same thing happen to me when I brought back to life my 1100G, only started it long enough to confirm that it would run. I drained 2 1/2 gallons of gas and oil out of the crank case. Refilled and changed again after about 20 miles. Oil stays pretty clean for the first few hundred now.

              V
              Gustov
              80 GS 1100 LT, 83 1100 G "Scruffy"
              81 GS 1000 G
              79 GS 850 G
              81 GS 850 L
              83 GS 550 ES, 85 GS 550 ES
              80 GS 550 L
              86 450 Rebel, 70CL 70, Yamaha TTR125
              2002 Honda 919
              2004 Ural Gear up

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                #8
                And, ... Before you crank the engine, pull the spark plugs.

                If the cylinders are full, too, they will hydrolock, possibly causing damage.

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                mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                Family Portrait
                Siblings and Spouses
                Mom's first ride
                Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                  #9
                  If there's as much gas as I think there is, you need to be very careful when cranking it over. Disable the ignition before you try to crank it with the plugs out or you might ignite the gas that's going to be spewing out of the cylinders. In fact, I'd turn it over by hand with the plugs removed and the ignition off first. Once you've completed a couple of cycles, and wiped up what came out, you should be able to put the plugs back in and crank it over.
                  http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
                  1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                  1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                  1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                  Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                  JTGS850GL aka Julius

                  GS Resource Greetings

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                    #10
                    Thanks to everyone for the help. I cleared out almost 2 gallons of oil/fuel. Changed the oil. Ran it. Changed it again. Was about to test ride it and as soon I drop it into first gear, it shuts off. Any ideas?

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                      #11
                      Start at the beginning, adjust valves, Did you dip each carb at least overnight with all jets and rubber pieces out> Poke all the holes with fine wire and blow em out? If not you need to clean them again. Check the links at the bottom of Nessiem's post. Did you replace the O rings behind the carb mount boots, they are probably 33 years old and shot.

                      Bench sync after all the above, set your pilot needles to 2 1/2 turns out from lightly seated, they are the ones under the holes that have plugs in them that are on top of the carb throat that plugs into the mount, if they haven't already been removed, they should have and the needles removed and cleaned and O rings replaced.

                      That setting should get you running if your floats are set right. Now you can put a set of vacuum gauges on the carbs and do a proper sync.

                      V
                      Gustov
                      80 GS 1100 LT, 83 1100 G "Scruffy"
                      81 GS 1000 G
                      79 GS 850 G
                      81 GS 850 L
                      83 GS 550 ES, 85 GS 550 ES
                      80 GS 550 L
                      86 450 Rebel, 70CL 70, Yamaha TTR125
                      2002 Honda 919
                      2004 Ural Gear up

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                        #12
                        Does it have a side stand switch? Was the stand down or is the switch working..if it has one??
                        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                          Does it have a side stand switch? Was the stand down or is the switch working..if it has one??
                          The switch on the side stand has NOTHING to do with whether the bike runs or not.

                          It only turns on the light on the instrument panel.

                          There is no ignition cut-out, nothing, nada, that is connected to that switch.

                          .
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                          mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                          hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                          #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                          #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                          Family Portrait
                          Siblings and Spouses
                          Mom's first ride
                          Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                          (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                            #14
                            More likely the clutch plates are stuck together from sitting . Dropping it into gear just killed the engine...
                            But there are more things to do here ...

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                              #15
                              Yes allot more stuff to do. Ask me how I know
                              Since your crank case was full of gas/oil you carbs over flowed.
                              Your floats and/or pins are the cause.

                              If it's been sitting collecting dust for a long time, you will have no choice but to clean / rebuild your carbs. Do not skimp out on this.
                              Even if you do skip this, if you want your bike to run right, you will be forced in the near future to do it.

                              You got your self an old bike with unknown condition, prepare your self for allot of fun and exciting challenges .
                              Last edited by Guest; 06-22-2015, 11:08 AM.

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