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Originally posted by mikerophone View Post
Originally posted by chanceafrica View Post
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Originally posted by jsandidge View Post
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mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
#1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
#2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
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Originally posted by jsandidge View PostThat is exactly why it should be done the Suzuki factory way. The other way will give you different (false) readings.Jordan
1977 Suzuki GS750 (My first bike)
2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1973 BMW R75/5
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seanarthurmachado
I think I would trust the judgement of Steve and the others on the forum above some guy at a dealership who randomly answered the phone.
(I've seen him work.... Very precise and exact on everything he does.)
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chanceafrica
steve, i dont think you should take any of this personally. im not suggesting people here dont know what they are talking about, thats why im here asking. i want to do it the right way but i am getting conflicting answers. the difference is, i know and respect the mechanics that told me one way to do the work,one IS an old timer suzuki dealer.i also understand that these guys dont necessarily know specific tips and tricks of the gs which is why im here . i dont know any of you guys here, and yes,its hard to trust strangers opinions(which is reasonable,no?) i dont know any of you or how long you've been doing anything, how would i know?! but i came here to hopefully find the gs specific gurus who want to share some of their insight. which i have gotten and which i do appreciate greatly. im just confused with the conflicting opinions, and im trying to figure out the best way to go about it because i absolutely want to do it the right way. so ive asked some questions and got some answers, and i dont think there should be any reason to be defensive or offended. i dont understand how a manual that printed thousands upon thousands of copies described a way to work on your motor which in fact would blow up your motor. im just trying to be cautious, by taking in every opinion on this subject because i want to do it correctly. and thank you all for your input thus far.Last edited by Guest; 08-27-2015, 12:28 AM.
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Originally posted by chanceafrica View Posti dont understand how a manual that printed thousands upon thousands of copies described a way to work on your motor which in fact would blow up your motor.
Step back a bit and look at your posts the way we just saw them: "
I measured them this way and got one number, checked them another way and got another number."
"Are you sure that is the way?"
"I checked with my buddies, they say do it this way."
Etc., etc., etc.
You came, asking questions, then questioned the answers (multiple times).
Yeah, I'm going to give up when I get resistance like that.
And I am one of the patient ones.
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mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
#1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
#2 son: 1980 GS1000G
Family Portrait
Siblings and Spouses
Mom's first ride
Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
(Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)
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JJ
I have adjusted valve clearances on Suzuki GS bikes dozens and dozens of times. The way the factory service manual shows, and Steve describes, is correct. Period... Stop questioning what the people here tell you, and do it the RIGHT way.
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You also say you came here looking for answers but then don't trust strangers. An motorcycle-based Internet forum is nothing but a group of strangers who have worked on their bikes, come to get help for their bikes, and created a community for doing so. If you aren't going to trust what we say, why ask the questions?
Every single person here who has given you the advice you asked for has been correct. Please follow what the Suzuki manual states and that has been explained to you a little more simply. The tutorial you were given on valve adjustments is the same for all of the shim style bikes and follows that Suzuki procedure.Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace
1981 GS550T - My First
1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike
Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"
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60ratrod
Originally posted by chanceafrica View Posti dont understand how a manual that printed thousands upon thousands of copies described a way to work on your motor which in fact would blow up your motor.
so the recommendations, tips, tricks, and advice have all been layed out here to you. it's up to you to do with it as you please. just remember, you may catch some flack from those who have given the advice and you chose to ignore it because somebody that knew somebody that did this thing once and told you about it is up to you.
I know I felt bad after receiving advice from here and ignoring it and ended up having to do more work cause I ignored it cause I just wanted to go 2 up. now i'm having to sort through those issues, instead of enjoying my 650g.
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chanceafrica
i did the valve adjustment according to the factory manual. then a carb sync. didnt get the carb sync 100% but damn close. i did notice when i blipped the throttle the levels werent all the same as when they are at idle on the manometer. i took her on a couple short runs and seemed great. my motor knocking was less and sounded and rode well,better than before i think. i took her on a 2-3 hour ride out and a 2 hour ride back. she started giving me similar issues like before. sounded a little off ("throaty") and didnt idle well. i havent checked the header/cylinder temps yet to see if my left side cylinder is still running cooler. so after i check that, i'll install new plugs and give a compression test. after all that than what?Last edited by Guest; 09-15-2015, 11:23 PM.
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chanceafrica
i pulled my plugs and they were white. if my valves were off i would have some white plugs and some not, or at least a varying range of color even if all where lean. these are all the same color. white. i tested for airleaks with a can of carb cleaner while the bike was at idle at all gaskets and carb boots. what else would cause this? if my airbox came un seated? if my cleaner element deteriorated? my buddy suggests upjetting. that seems to just overcompensate for another issue. i have no reason to believe the jets were ever changed from stock. he says these and all bikes were highly restrictive from emissions and most are lean from the factory. sure they could be lean,....but not THIS lean? any insight?
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JJ
Check the things you are asking questions about. You have the bike right there where you can see, touch, measure... If your plugs are white, then you are definitely lean. Find out why. Pull the camshaft cover and measure the valve clearances. Pull the carbs and see what jet sizes you have. Pull the carb boots off and look at the o-ring between the manifold and head. Is it cracked? Flattened? It's cheap enough to replace them, just to be sure. Look at your airbox seals. Take the element out. If it's in decent shape, clean and re-oil it.
Listen to the advice that people here have given you. Stop analyzing and start ACTING.
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