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    1983 gas leaking between carbs

    I have a 1983 GS850 and i am new to the Carb scene. I have a leak from
    between my carbs and just want to know if there is a seal located where
    im pointing to in the picture, and how to change it out.
    Attached Files

    #2
    Hi and welcome.
    Those connecting pieces generally have o ring seals and are known leakers after time especially after a carb rebuild. Parts fiche will show it up. Carbs have to come apart or be ' de-ganged ' to get at them.
    In case you haven't yet found it.........
    http://members.dslextreme.com/users/bikecliff/

    PS there should be a vent pipe on that link and it's opposite number. Put it back on before reassembling the carb set as it's almost impossible to do afterwards.
    Last edited by Brendan W; 11-25-2015, 10:00 AM.
    97 R1100R
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    80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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      #3
      You must ungang the carbs and replace all the various O-rings to do the job right. Check my signature for a link to a useful rebuild tutorial.
      Ed

      To measure is to know.

      Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

      Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

      Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

      KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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        #4
        Thanks guys, I figured there was one. is it as easy as unscrewing the plate that goes across and pulling it apart? your links didn't work

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          #5
          Originally posted by vicjr24 View Post
          is it as easy as unscrewing the plate that goes across and pulling it apart?
          Sure
          First off those screws on the rack look original. That means they will not give up without a fight and they are not Phillips head but JIS. They will get damaged pretty quick if the wrong tool is used.
          You need to have a close look at how the choke and throttle are locked to their respective operating rods as they have to be opened up too.
          This would be a good time to consider a thorough clean and replace o rings inside the carbs.
          97 R1100R
          Previous
          80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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            #6
            There are TWO 'plates' that hold the carbs together. And, if you are going to take them apart even a little bit, it only makes sense to take them ALL the way apart and refresh the innards, as well.

            The leaky area in question is the fuel transfer tube (not a vent as suggested above), hence the leak. A full set of new o-rings can be purchased very inexpensively from cycleorings.com, which is run by one of our members. While at that site, also seriously consider getting the intake o-rings and the stainless screws that hold the intake tubes to the engine. Do NOT waste your money on "rebuild kits". They frequently contain inferior parts and not all the parts you need to do a refurb.

            Apparently the links are down to the carb rebuild tutorial, will have to find an alternate source for it.

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              #7
              Just go here: Rebuild Tutorial and you'll have all your questions answered.

              1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
              1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
              1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

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                #8
                I'm sure you are smart enough to take close up photos of the rack and mechanisms before you separate the set

                this is very unfortunate - and on a scale of 1 to 10 it is over an 8 - beware a mistake will not only hurt the carbs functionality but screws getting sucked into the engine is a very strong possibility after a set is separated. - You really should never reuse the spiked throttle plate screws - and maybe ask the experts where to obtain them.
                SUZUKI , There is no substitute

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                  #9
                  Take those carbs and send them off to Steve (if your in the USA) and have them pro cleaned and forget about it. Once they are professionally cleaned they'll be good to go for another 30 years if you take care of your fuel system. Sometimes is worth the $$$ to just have it done correctly. Also put in your signature where you are located

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                    #10
                    thanks everyone for the help. I just traded my 03 636 ninja for this bobber style 83 gs830 and the carbs were just rebuilt but had that 2 leaks. 1 leak was from the a bowl that was not tightened all the way and the other is from the fuel transfer tube from the far left carb so hopefully I only have to take that 1 off along with the gang plate and idk if the choke will be able to stay yet.

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                      #11
                      "....and the carbs were just rebuilt but had that 2 leaks. 1 leak was from the a bowl that was not tightened all the way and the other is from the fuel transfer tube from the far left carb so hopefully I only have to take that 1 off along with the gang plate "

                      Do you feel lucky? Best to assume carbs were improperly rebuilt before your arrival. Only way to know is to do it yourself - these carbs don't like quickee fixes.
                      1981 gs650L

                      "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Brendan W View Post
                        Sure
                        First off those screws on the rack look original. That means they will not give up without a fight and they are not Phillips head but JIS. They will get damaged pretty quick if the wrong tool is used.
                        You need to have a close look at how the choke and throttle are locked to their respective operating rods as they have to be opened up too.
                        This would be a good time to consider a thorough clean and replace o rings inside the carbs.
                        Do yourself a favor and replace every one of those JIS screws with SS allen head fasteners. On the carbs, gang plates, every where. Make sure and use lock washers in the right spots as well. They have kits available to replace every thing on the engine.
                        sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
                        1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
                        2015 CAN AM RTS


                        Stuff I've done to my bike 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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                          #13
                          Ok so I fixed the leaking o ring but after I got it all back together all my carbs are leaking from the intake side out of the bottom right hole as shown in my picture.

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                            #14
                            Picture for last post
                            Attached Files

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                              #15
                              tap on the bowls..may be a stuck float from turning the carbs around.
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