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    Cant get full sync

    Yesterday i sync my carbs so long and cant get all of my carbs sync.

    This is where it is now. Idle. Other setup is where 1st, 3rd and 4 is about sync but 2nd is very low. Cannot see any leaking spot.


    But when i take rpm's to 3k then there are all full sync. Is that very bad thing if i leave this idle settings on?

    #2
    Once you get 1/2 and 3/4 cylinders lined up like that, you use then CENTER adjuster to bring the 2 sides into sync. May then need to do some very minut tweeking at that point.
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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      #3
      When i that point using center adjuster, only 3rd going up and 2nd going down.

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        #4
        turn it the other way and see what it does...and the idle will chnge so youll be ready to use the idle knob to adjust. And sync with the RPMs arounr 2000 to 2500
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #5
          To sync the carbs you first set the idle up to about 2500 rpm.

          Tweak the center adjuster and get 2-3 level.

          Next adjust 1 and 4 to be level with the two center carbs. The order of which you adjust first doesn't matter.

          Always use a large fan blowing on the engine when doing this sort of work.

          Needless to say, you must have the valves properly adjusted, a clean air filter installed, and the entire intake system sealed properly. Also, set the pilot screws to 2.5 turns open or close, based on the highest idle test.
          Last edited by Nessism; 04-16-2016, 01:18 PM.
          Ed

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            #6
            I always have done them the way i posted because thats the way all the "pros" that have racing shops show CV carb syncing on thier websites and youtube pages.
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              #7
              Here..even though its a CBR its still a 4 cylindered inline 4 bike and the principle is exactly the same on a GS with CV carbs. Funny how the Brit inn the video is counting 1 as the right side and 4 as the left side when we Americans go from left to right.


              Balancing (or synchronising) the carburettors on your motorcycle is an important job. Poorly balanced carbs (and fuel injection systems) will cause your bike...
              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                #8
                Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                I always have done them the way i posted because thats the way all the "pros" that have racing shops show CV carb syncing on thier websites and youtube pages.
                That's not the right way chuck. 2-3 need's to be done first. If you do 1-2 and 3-4 first, when you do 2-3 everything will then be off.
                Ed

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                  That's not the right way chuck. 2-3 need's to be done first. If you do 1-2 and 3-4 first, when you do 2-3 everything will then be off.
                  That has been my experience, as well.
                  Doesn't matter if is a four pack of webers on a Opel OR CV carbs, or flat sides, or...

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                    #10
                    In THEORY, it shouldn't matter which ones you do first, but I have observed that the factory-recommended sequence works best.

                    Sync 2/3, then 1/2, finally 3/4. Of course, when they adjust 1/2 and 3/4, they are setting the outer cylinders "half a ball" higher than the inner cylinders, but that "half a ball" is only repeatable if you have the official Suzuki sync gauge. I think I saw something a while back where somebody tested that and found that "half a ball" was about 2cm on a real gauge. Most of us will set them all the same height, and not worry about that "half a ball" difference.

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                      #11
                      The "half ball" difference only applies when using the stock exhaust. On a 4-1 exhaust you would align all the levels equal.
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                      1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by JTGS850GL View Post
                        The "half ball" difference only applies when using the stock exhaust. On a 4-1 exhaust you would align all the levels equal.
                        1. I never have heard a good explanation why that is. Do you have any idea why they wanted that half-ball difference?

                        2. The OP never says what type of exhaust system is on his bike.

                        3. Suzuki never mentioned ANYTHING about removing the stock exhaust and what adjustments would have to be made if you did.

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                          #13
                          I have stock exhaust. 4-2. Yesterday i drove about 30km and not problems at all. Very cold out there still, 3 celsius to 8 celsius (37.4 F to 46.4 F).

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by phydeauxmutt View Post
                            1. I never have heard a good explanation why that is. Do you have any idea why they wanted that half-ball difference?

                            2. The OP never says what type of exhaust system is on his bike.

                            3. Suzuki never mentioned ANYTHING about removing the stock exhaust and what adjustments would have to be made if you did.
                            The "half ball" thing is related to the stock exhaust being a 2 into 2 with a crossover tube.
                            http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
                            1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                            1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                            1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                            Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                            JTGS850GL aka Julius

                            GS Resource Greetings

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                              #15
                              That half ball business is iffy at best. I've never heard of that with other model bikes, just Suzuki, and lots of different models use a crossover. Just set the vacuum equal across the board and call it done.
                              Ed

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