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    #16
    Originally posted by bobgroger View Post
    Yes they are. They do not come with filter, o-ring, or clip but are the same as the BS parts. If you look in the Mikuni catalog they don't even acknowledge the existence of BS carbs. AFAIK they were all OEM and parts were left to the OEM to distribute. However there is usually the same part used in the Retail lines as well. The RS carbs use a lot of the same parts.
    Good to know.
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    1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
    1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
    1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

    Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

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      #17
      Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
      Want a trusted source then go with Sudco. look in the index to see what page the Mikuni stuff starts on.

      http://sudco.com/Catalog37Digital/index.html#/1/
      Sudco won't sell direct, you have to convince them you are a dealer http://www.sudco.com/becoming_a_dealer.html
      I don't want to go through all that for a $50 purchase. Too bad they don't have a listing of dealers on their website.
      sigpic
      09 Kaw C14 Rocket powered Barcalounger
      1983 GS1100e
      82\83 1100e Frankenbike
      1980 GS1260
      Previous 65 Suzuki 80 Scrambler, 76 KZ900, 02 GSF1200S, 81 GS1100e, 80 GS850G

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        #18
        Last I ordered from them..maybe a year ago or so..all they told me was there was a 5 dollar charge because i wasnt a dealer or repair shop.
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #19
          These guys are a Sudco dealer http://www.britcycle.com , yes they are a Canadian company but they have a US division/ warehouse.

          I purchased my smoothbore stuff from them, they will get you anything in the Sudco catalog.

          Hth's
          Daryl
          1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head :cool:
          1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017:D

          I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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            #20
            Originally posted by bobgroger View Post
            https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

            These are genuine, best price I've found. 4 for the price of one from Suzuki. Filters not included.
            Bought four just because. Wish I could find just the needle though.
            Ed

            To measure is to know.

            Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

            Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

            Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

            KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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              #21
              •Genuine Mikuni needle and seat assemblies provide reliable performance
              •Made to the highest standards
              •Check application and size of needle and seat assembly before ordering
              •VM26/26 style fits VM22MM-34MM Flange, VM24-512 Spigot, VM26MM and 28MM Round Spigot and VM30MM small body
              •VM28/163 style fits VM30MM-34MM spigot mount
              •786-46001 style fits TM32-38 and TM39-41 Pro without accelerator pump (O-ring included)
              •N149.040 style fits RS34-40 (O-ring not included)
              •VM28/511 Viton® Tip style needle and seat fits all VM30-44
              •Made in Japan $14.95 each on average
              If you notice the last two digits of the part # like on the previous package posted was 2.0 that is the measurement of the hole that supplies the fuel. 2.0 mm's happens to be that measurement The larger the number the more fuel it will flow. I have found some with the same overall dimensions but had a 3.0 mm or larger hole which we used for racing purposes or where more fuel consumption was needed. Only genuine parts usually supply that dimension at the end of the part # that I have noticed. So obviously you would not want a smaller # then what the carb requires, Larger no problem the float bowl just fills up quicker.
              Appears on page 1346 of 2016 Street in Parts Unlimited catalog
              Last edited by gs11ezrydr; 10-05-2016, 01:47 AM.
              sigpic 82 gs1100ez 1168 Wiseco,Web .348 Cams,Falicon Sprockets,Star Racing Ported Head,1mm o/s Stainless Valves,APE Springs,Bronze Guides,etc.APE Billet Tensioner,36CV Carbs,Stage 3 Dynojet,Plenum w/K&N filter,Trued,Welded,Balanced,Crank w/Katana rods & Billet left end, FBG backcut trans, VHR HD Clutch basket,APE nut,VHR High volume oil pump gears,1150 Oil cooler,V&H Megaphone header w/Competition baffle,Dyna S,Coils,Wires,etc.Other misc.mods.

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                #22
                Photo of needle and seat assy.

                7864600120.jpg
                Last edited by gs11ezrydr; 10-05-2016, 01:29 AM.
                sigpic 82 gs1100ez 1168 Wiseco,Web .348 Cams,Falicon Sprockets,Star Racing Ported Head,1mm o/s Stainless Valves,APE Springs,Bronze Guides,etc.APE Billet Tensioner,36CV Carbs,Stage 3 Dynojet,Plenum w/K&N filter,Trued,Welded,Balanced,Crank w/Katana rods & Billet left end, FBG backcut trans, VHR HD Clutch basket,APE nut,VHR High volume oil pump gears,1150 Oil cooler,V&H Megaphone header w/Competition baffle,Dyna S,Coils,Wires,etc.Other misc.mods.

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                  #23
                  JetrUs has a graphic that makes it easy to figure out what type of needle valve you have:

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                    #24
                    Just checked out jetsrus.com Killer site Thanks for the info.
                    sigpic 82 gs1100ez 1168 Wiseco,Web .348 Cams,Falicon Sprockets,Star Racing Ported Head,1mm o/s Stainless Valves,APE Springs,Bronze Guides,etc.APE Billet Tensioner,36CV Carbs,Stage 3 Dynojet,Plenum w/K&N filter,Trued,Welded,Balanced,Crank w/Katana rods & Billet left end, FBG backcut trans, VHR HD Clutch basket,APE nut,VHR High volume oil pump gears,1150 Oil cooler,V&H Megaphone header w/Competition baffle,Dyna S,Coils,Wires,etc.Other misc.mods.

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                      #25
                      I just finished rebuilding a set of GS750 carbs using K&L float needles, because that is what I had on hand. The weight of the float compressed the needle spring so it was necessary to hold up the float in order to set float height.

                      The "clear tube" method showed the fuel level was a little high and bending the float tang didn't make much difference. I blame the weak spring.
                      Ed

                      To measure is to know.

                      Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                      Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                      Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                      KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                        #26
                        I have purchased 16 OEM Mikuni seat and valve assemblies over the last few years. I received complete units where the retainer clip and filter were also attached. AOK. Additionally, I have used the K & L needles......with good results. For sure the plunger spring is 'weaker' than factory and, for me, the only downside was the plunger compressing with float weight as Nessism said.. With carb tipped sideways, float weight not an issue...but still a pita. I took a spare new K&L float needle and used some epoxy to eliminate the plunger movement. Then used that needle to set float height in each carb. Easy and accurate. That said, the complete Mikuni seat / needle others referenced here.....nice pieces indeed.

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                          #27
                          Received the needle/seat assemblies today and they are exactly as shown in bobgroger's photo.

                          After reviewing the Mikuni needle information I think there are a few other p/n's that would be fine too.

                          The 786-46001-2.0 looks similar but has a clip (like the OEM needles) to keep the needle from falling too far out of the seat which I think is a good idea. https://www.amazon.com/Mikuni-Needle.../dp/B0022ZSZVC

                          There is also a Viton tip needle assembly that looks to be the right size. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...7F0MQK5RD7Y47C

                          Several good option all at a half way reasonable price point.
                          Last edited by Nessism; 10-13-2016, 08:09 AM.
                          Ed

                          To measure is to know.

                          Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                          Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                          Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                          KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                            #28
                            The $60 each price is a bit stiff from Suzuki. I plan to eventually replace all of them on my keeper bikes. Keeps the fuel in the tank in case you accidentally leave the petcock on Prime. Not that I have ever done that. Last time I only noticed because of the pool of oil under the bike leaking out the shifter shaft seal.....
                            sigpic
                            09 Kaw C14 Rocket powered Barcalounger
                            1983 GS1100e
                            82\83 1100e Frankenbike
                            1980 GS1260
                            Previous 65 Suzuki 80 Scrambler, 76 KZ900, 02 GSF1200S, 81 GS1100e, 80 GS850G

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