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    #31
    Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
    How are the orings on the seats themselves???
    Well i did notice on the test when i held the carbs right side up without the float bowls on, and pressed the needle physically, that one brass seat does weap. Its not horrible, its a light weap, not saying it will not be addressed but.. when these carbs start leaking its like, fuel on, 3 seconds, all start pouring fuel out.. i really think its the float level, or its the little retainer blocking the needle from being pressed with force. Do your guys' floats look level or even parallel with the main body?

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      #32
      well yes i get it..but remember that with the tank hooked up you have all that fuel weight from above pushing down on the seats and that pressure may move them out a tad more and make the weap and pour. i saw someone posted the retainers arent need. Use them and be sure the seats are SEATED AND HELD STILL. They DO NOT interfere with anything as was posted in that comment. if your stops are set and the floats are set right the retainers dont hit anything.
      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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        #33
        Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
        well yes i get it..but remember that with the tank hooked up you have all that fuel weight from above pushing down on the seats and that pressure may move them out a tad more and make the weap and pour. i saw someone posted the retainers arent need. Use them and be sure the seats are SEATED AND HELD STILL. They DO NOT interfere with anything as was posted in that comment. if your stops are set and the floats are set right the retainers dont hit anything.
        Seen some aftermarket float needles that had shorter then OEM stems that caused some interference issues. Just suggesting to verify with the retainers out to rule that out as a cause. Still waiting on pictures of the setup.
        http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
        1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
        1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
        1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

        Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

        JTGS850GL aka Julius

        GS Resource Greetings

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          #34
          Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
          well yes i get it..but remember that with the tank hooked up you have all that fuel weight from above pushing down on the seats and that pressure may move them out a tad more and make the weap and pour. i saw someone posted the retainers arent need. Use them and be sure the seats are SEATED AND HELD STILL. They DO NOT interfere with anything as was posted in that comment. if your stops are set and the floats are set right the retainers dont hit anything.
          When i get to the garage around 2 pm today (its 1030 here) i will post pics, of retainer orientation, float measurements, and maybe a video of what happens if i can figure out how to film it while controlling everything. Does the retainer have an orientation so that it does not interfere? Why isnt any of this in my 30$ shop manual haha...

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            #35
            Originally posted by JTGS850GL View Post
            Seen some aftermarket float needles that had shorter then OEM stems that caused some interference issues. Just suggesting to verify with the retainers out to rule that out as a cause. Still waiting on pictures of the setup.
            Correct, the new needles feel like the stem has a weaker spring, the float tab deff. Hits the retainer, but is still depressing the stem about halfway i would say.. without the retainers, i felt no bind whatsoever when checking float travel.. i may bend the stop tab up a little and run without them after all this. But today i will take pics before i take them off of the clearence issue, and try both new and old float needles

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              #36
              Ok so... heres some pics of the retainer depressed and it hitting. Some pics of my measurements, looks to me like hey are all between 22 and 22.5mm which is want i want. I figure if they are on the high side it will give more force. Also lookes like it depresses the needles plunger until the tab hits the brass seat... was almost thinking about trimming the edges off so it can push harder into the seat opening. And aparently i can only post ine pic per post sorry guys
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                #37
                The plunger depressing with retainer, it soreads through the retainer
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                  #38
                  Side by side with old and new... looks like new could be just a smidge smaller if any. The spring is a tad softer
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                    #39
                    This is the orientation if the retainer. So now that the floats are adjusted, this is the last combo i havent tried. No retainer, old float needles, adjusted at the right spot. Ill give it a go and try not to sell the bike for scrap before i can post an update
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                      #40
                      Looks to me like the brass seat isn't all the way into the bore. Or, it's an aftermarket one that is too tall.
                      https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9zH8w8Civs8ejBJWjdvYi1LNTg&resourcekey=0-hlJp0Yc4K_VN9g7Jyy4KQg&authuser=fussbucket_1%40msn.com&usp=drive_fs
                      1983 GS750ED-Horsetraded for the Ironhead
                      1981 HD XLH

                      Drew's 850 L Restoration

                      Drew's 83 750E Project

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                        #41
                        First of all the tab is supposed to be almost flat and inline with the entire hinge!!! Maybe just a very little bit toward the float needles but not much. Someone has bent ( twisted )the composite floats themselves on the hinges. Take those center tabs and bend them almost flush with the hinges. THEN tweek the composite floats to get them somewhat close to the float hts. when tweeking the center tabs and adjusting floats hts with them theres no way in hellz they should ever be bent like that. Maybe a tiny bit to fine set the hts but thats way out of whack.
                        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                          #42
                          Here is the resevior.. ive had it hook up to a gas tank too off another gs i have... did the same exact thing.
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                            #43
                            Fist off, what's with the broken post? Hope you're not trying to run it that way.



                            As Chuck indicated, those tabs are bent WAY too much. Something is wrong for sure.
                            Last edited by JTGS850GL; 02-18-2017, 06:10 PM.
                            http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
                            1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                            1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                            1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                            Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                            JTGS850GL aka Julius

                            GS Resource Greetings

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                              First of all the tab is supposed to be almost flat and inline with the entire hinge!!! Maybe just a very little bit toward the float needles but not much. Someone has bent ( twisted )the composite floats themselves on the hinges. Take those center tabs and bend them almost flush with the hinges. THEN tweek the composite floats to get them somewhat close to the float hts. when tweeking the center tabs and adjusting floats hts with them theres no way in hellz they should ever be bent like that. Maybe a tiny bit to fine set the hts but thats way out of whack.
                              Ok so here are he floats, i wish i could post mpre than one picture at a time. They seem fairly straight with the hinge, is this supposed to be? Am i measuring the right spot?
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by JTGS850GL View Post
                                Fist off, what's with the broken post? Hope you're not trying to run it that way.



                                As Chuck indicated, those tabs are bent WAY too much. Something is wrong for sure.
                                Welp.. it broke.. it still has enough meat to hold the pin while im trying to dick with thelis problem.. im not going to invest anymore money into this until i can get it to hold fuel

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