float needle retention spring...GS850G

[Guest]

1980 GS850G
under the float, I think it is called the needle valve, there is a very delicate little retention spring that kept it in the seat. When I look at the fiche, it doesn't show one. The first two that I have removed have basically fallen apart because they were so rusted. Are they necessary? It looks to me as if the float itself wouldn't allow the needle valve to escape. If they are needed, any idea of how to get new ones? The spring would hold the valve in #49

Thanks

needle valve.jpg

[Steve]

I have seen carbs with them and without them, I don't think that they really make any difference.

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[Peter Buehner]

Thanks Steve! I put the original seats under a magnifying glass and they have a little lip on them for the spring. The replacement ones I got are smooth and won't hold a spring anyway. I am a bit suspect of these rebuild kits now. A couple of the other parts don't seem to be exact matches. They are K&L kits from Z1.
All the best,
Peter

[mainiac]

I am a bit suspect of these rebuild kits now. A couple of the other parts don't seem to be exact matches. They are K&L kits from Z1.
All the best,
Peter[/QUOTE]
I have had good luck with these guys, http://jetsrus.com/index.html

[Peter Buehner]

Thanks for that link. nice to see other Mariners on here. I thought spring was coming but now talk of a big storm on Tuesday.

I am a bit suspect of these rebuild kits now. A couple of the other parts don't seem to be exact matches. They are K&L kits from Z1.
All the best,
Peter

I have had good luck with these guys, http://jetsrus.com/index.html[/QUOTE]

[hillsy]

There's 2 types of float needle retention - the ones you have now where the clip is on the top of the seat or where the clip is on the needle:



The second one slips over the float tang.

In practice, as long as you are careful re-assembling the carbs / putting the bowls back on you shouldn't really need either.

[mainiac]

Thanks for that link. nice to see other Mariners on here. I thought spring was coming but now talk of a big storm on Tuesday.

I have had good luck with these guys, http://jetsrus.com/index.html

[/QUOTE]

I know, but it will melt quickly. ( I hope ) I am ready for some warm weather.

[tom203]

Thanks for that link. nice to see other Mariners on here. I thought spring was coming but now talk of a big storm on Tuesday.
QUOTE]

I'm counting on today's bitter cold to drive tuesday's storm further south of us.

[bwringer]

The carb kits are well-known to be utter and complete crap. Shoddy imitation junk throughout, and a complete waste of money.

Are ya picking up the message here?

Clean up your original brass parts and use a carb o-ring kit from cycleorings.com . You might want bowl gaskets, but these can normally be re-used for decades.