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    #16
    They are mikuni 32bs cv carbs with correct 82 550 jetting and settings.

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      #17
      They may have "correct 82 550 jetting and settings", but if they are spaced incorrectly, you WILL have problems.

      For one other suggestion, try folding a shop rag in half, then holding it over the carb openings. If you clamp the rag on the two outer carbs, you can actually do a trip around the block, but it's not good enough to check the jetting. These carbs rely on smooth airflow into the throats. You should be able to start and idle the bike with no airbox, but you will have a hard time getting to anything higher than idle speed without SOMETHING over the carb throats to smoothe the airflow.

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        #18
        I was able to get it to start with my hand over two carb throats, thanks! I'll post pictures of the difference between them later today.

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          #19
          There is more to the jetting than just the main & pilot. There are various air jets, needle sizes, jet needles, etc. Look at the OEM carb jetting sticky thread pinned at the top of the forum and see for yourself. Compare the 550 and 650 carbs for example, both as the same size and have the same spacing, but the jetting is quite different.
          Ed

          To measure is to know.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Nessism View Post
            Compare the 550 and 650 carbs for example, both as the same size and have the same spacing, but the jetting is quite different.
            Jetting can also change from year to year. Not so much because the bikes changed, but because Suzuki had to rush to meet the new EPA standards and set everything rather lean. In the following years, they learned that they could change this air jet or that pilot jet and get a better-running bike that still met the standards. Best suggestion would be to find the jetting for the latest year of that model, maybe even compare that to the jetting of the Canadian version.

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            mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
            Family Portrait
            Siblings and Spouses
            Mom's first ride
            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
            (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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              #21
              Post edited to include above information ∆
              Last edited by Guest; 06-01-2017, 10:39 AM.

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                #22
                I did find the correct jetting info on this forum. I replace the following : main pilot air corrector fuel needle fuel needle seat valve. Also since the two Center carbs were spaced wider I was able to flip over the intake manifold boots and make the rack fit the head perfectly.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Chuck Fryer View Post
                  Also since the two Center carbs were spaced wider I was able to flip over the intake manifold boots and make the rack fit the head perfectly.
                  Now I am wondering if the boots were wrong to start with and they are now installed correctly.

                  Which way are the sync ports facing on your newly-flipped over boots?

                  If they are now facing up and toward the center, you are going to have a ^^%$%^$ time trying to access them to sync the carbs.

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                  mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                  hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                  #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                  #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                  Family Portrait
                  Siblings and Spouses
                  Mom's first ride
                  Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                  (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                    #24
                    I wonder what these came off of?!?
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                      #25
                      You can see the difference in the brackets that hold them together.
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                        #26
                        Yes, it will be tough to sync.
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                          #27
                          Your carb boots are on wrong. The sync port screw should be down on all. And there are two different types of boots on the head, so they need to be oriented correctly.
                          Ed

                          To measure is to know.

                          Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                          Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                          Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                          KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                            #28
                            Yes Ed, but with the carb rack I have, this is the way they fit

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