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    Fuel problem 5000ish rpm.

    1166 with pods,g3 cams,V and H header, stock carbs
    10 years ago I bought the carb kits that came with the
    Adjustable needles and jets. 167 mains , clip in middle.
    Screws 2.5 turns out idle around 12_1400rpm.
    I can lug it around all day under 4k.
    I can run it at near recline 7_9k.
    But around 5_7k their is a miss when going full on.
    I've read the carb stickey. Only thing I ant sure on is the float level.
    Didn't realize it could be used to riches or lean.
    They were set to whatever the instructions [long lost) Said!
    I think gas is different than it was.
    Where to Began?
    And yes fire is nice and blue and valves are adjusted.
    Thanks for a any ideas.

    #2
    Adjust the needle heights first. I'd probably start with raising them one notch and see what happens. If the problem gets worse, go the other way.
    Current:
    Z1300A5 Locomotive (swapped my Intruder for it), GS450 Cafe Project (might never finish it....), XT500 Commuter (I know - it's a Yamaha :eek:)

    Past:
    VL1500 Intruder (swapped for Z1300), ZX9R Streetfighter (lets face it - too fast....), 1984 GSX750EF, 1984 GSX1100EF (AKA GS1150)
    And a bunch of other crap Yamahas....

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      #3
      Isnt that rpm a transition point for the circuits?

      Are passages maybe just a tad dirty or gummed up?
      Drop a dose or two of fuek sytem cleaner in it and drive the crap out of it crossing the threhold repeatedly.
      1983 GS 550 LD
      2009 BMW K1300s

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        #4
        Ok I'll raise lean the needle one.
        And while their off I'll check the float level.
        Sugestions on where to set it?
        thanks.
        Ps already blowed carb out with cleaner and air.
        Then hooked it to a IV tank with 50-50 gas and sea foam
        forbout ten min Boy did it smoke and pop.
        Back to 100% gas now for tuning.

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          #5
          Originally posted by 81gs7501166 View Post
          1166 with pods,g3 cams,V and H header, stock carbs
          10 years ago I bought the carb kits that came with the
          Adjustable needles and jets. 167 mains , clip in middle.
          Screws 2.5 turns out idle around 12_1400rpm.
          I can lug it around all day under 4k.
          I can run it at near recline 7_9k.
          But around 5_7k their is a miss when going full on.
          So, you get a stumble around 5000rpm at full throttle? That should be at the upper limit of the needle, transitioning onto the main jets. Can you try pulling the choke when you are in that zone (or as you go through that zone)? If it gets better then you are lean, if it coughs a bit then you are close and if it falls on its face then you are rich.


          Mark
          1982 GS1100E
          1998 ZX-6R
          2005 KTM 450EXC

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            #6
            My 550 ran just like this. Start and low rpm just fine, WOT worked but ran out of power around 5 to 6,000 rpm. My mechanic rode it and did what Mark suggested and he said it was about one main size lean. I changed up the jet and everything was great. Mine was all stock except for the K&N filter. That was enough to push an already lean mixture into the "no fly" zone. Good Luck with yours. Oh, I couldn't do the running, pull the choke knob thing as I'm missing a digit.

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              #7
              I need the float height spec. I can't seem to find it anywhere. Or where do I look.
              Thanks
              It's raining hear today so the carbs are coming off.

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                #8
                Originally posted by 81gs7501166 View Post
                I need the float height spec. I can't seem to find it anywhere. Or where do I look.
                Thanks
                It's raining hear today so the carbs are coming off.
                Download a service manual for your bike here: http://members.dslextreme.com/users/bikecliff/


                Mark
                1982 GS1100E
                1998 ZX-6R
                2005 KTM 450EXC

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                  #9
                  Come on. I need the float setting. I've been all over Google. Can't find it. What's up.
                  I have a repair manual but it doesn't have it.

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                    #10
                    did you look in the oem manual its clearly there. Follow the link in the previous post.
                    1983 GS 550 LD
                    2009 BMW K1300s

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                      #11
                      Thanks all. Finished up last night but no test.
                      Just got back,weeeeeee she's close to perfect.
                      Didn't hammer it from a stop yet but the problem
                      Area 5-7k is smooth now.
                      Also pulls well from bout 3500rpm on in any gear.
                      Haven't looked at plugs yet.
                      Clip now in 2 from the top.

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                        #12
                        Finally found a .094ish float setting.
                        Now someone sprain to me how to tune with
                        Fuel level.
                        Thanks

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                          #13
                          per the manual .098-.138 inches
                          1983 GS 550 LD
                          2009 BMW K1300s

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                            #14
                            I'll reset the floats after I get tires on and feel safer hammering on it!

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                              #15
                              OK I thought it was good until late a friend came by on his HD and wanted me to ride.
                              We went up thearly road a mile and hammered them both. Came back to the shop he had a 1166 several years ago and said something felt
                              Weak in the middle and top, he suggested a 150 main, that's what he remembered he had in his.
                              Could this be right? The jet kit came with 165 and 170 for bikes with pods and header.
                              Could my baffle be causing This? It's quieter than it was when I built it 10 years ago,and I like it.
                              I just want it to run right.
                              Thanks.

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