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    SuperTrapp installation advise:

    I'm installing a nice SuperTrapp header and slip on, on my 83 1100ED. All has gone well except that slipping on the "slip on" is requiring the persuasion of a rubber mallet and I still have another 1/2 inch of smacking to get it to line up with the hang point on the right passenger peg mount. I'm using a wood block so I hopefully don't bend anything. It's so tight that I won't need the clamp to hold on the slip on. Is this normal?
    GS History: 1980 GS1000E, 1982 GS1100G, 1983 GS1100ES, 1986 GSXR750,
    Current: 1983 GS1100ED, 2006 Suzuki 650 VStrom, 2009 Concours C14 ABS,

    #2
    Maybe the collector and/or the matching muffler connection is slightly out of round. This can happen when the band clamp is over tightened. Not sure what to suggest other than maybe trying to verify roundness...somehow. I say this from experience with a Supertrapp header I've got for my bike. It's a pain in the butt to get the muffler installed and rotated correctly so the hanger aligns.
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

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      #3
      This one is brand new and never been installed before.
      GS History: 1980 GS1000E, 1982 GS1100G, 1983 GS1100ES, 1986 GSXR750,
      Current: 1983 GS1100ED, 2006 Suzuki 650 VStrom, 2009 Concours C14 ABS,

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        #4
        Check for rough edges and burrs on/in the overlap area to ensure nothing is hanging up.


        Mark
        1982 GS1100E
        1998 ZX-6R
        2005 KTM 450EXC

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          #5
          Maybe a little grease on the interface parts?
          Ed

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            #6
            Originally posted by mmattockx View Post
            Check for rough edges and burrs on/in the overlap area to ensure nothing is hanging up.


            Mark
            Looked nice and smooth before assembly.
            GS History: 1980 GS1000E, 1982 GS1100G, 1983 GS1100ES, 1986 GSXR750,
            Current: 1983 GS1100ED, 2006 Suzuki 650 VStrom, 2009 Concours C14 ABS,

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              #7
              Originally posted by Nessism View Post
              Maybe a little grease on the interface parts?
              I'll try to separate it and lube, as you suggest.
              GS History: 1980 GS1000E, 1982 GS1100G, 1983 GS1100ES, 1986 GSXR750,
              Current: 1983 GS1100ED, 2006 Suzuki 650 VStrom, 2009 Concours C14 ABS,

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                #8
                Maybe a smear of silicon instead of grease - silicon will act as a lube while it is wet but will then set and stop any leaks / blow by.
                Current:
                Z1300A5 Locomotive (swapped my Intruder for it), GS450 Cafe Project (might never finish it....), XT500 Commuter (I know - it's a Yamaha )

                Past:
                VL1500 Intruder (swapped for Z1300), ZX9R Streetfighter (lets face it - too fast....), 1984 GSX750EF, 1984 GSX1100EF (AKA GS1150)
                And a bunch of other crap Yamahas....

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                  #9
                  Once you get it separated, could you use a bit of emery cloth in the overlap area then apply either grease or silicone?
                  Larry

                  '79 GS 1000E
                  '93 Honda ST 1100 SOLD-- now residing in Arizona.
                  '18 Triumph Tiger 800 (gone too soon)
                  '19 Triumph Tiger 800 Christmas 2018 to me from me.
                  '01 BMW R1100RL project purchased from a friend, now for sale.

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                    #10
                    Got it separated, lubed it, and it moved another 1/8 inch but I still need another 1/2 inch. I'm now considering cutting the slip on splits deeper.

                    GS History: 1980 GS1000E, 1982 GS1100G, 1983 GS1100ES, 1986 GSXR750,
                    Current: 1983 GS1100ED, 2006 Suzuki 650 VStrom, 2009 Concours C14 ABS,

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                      #11
                      If you have a caliper handy I would confirm roundness on the internal of the Muffler and the external on the header. Just because its new doesnt mean that one of the "fingers" on the supertrap isn't bent in some.

                      I would also mark where I think the muffler is supposed to slip to and take either a fairly aggressive steel wool or sand paper and smooth the area the muffler will slip on to then add the lube. From the pix the header look damn near new with a heavy coat of epoxy. I would want to take that down a little where the muffler goes. Not to bare metal but i would scuff it plenty.

                      If you want to be totally insane .. after checking round on both mating parts and giving a good hard buff to the header area I might take out my buffing fob and attach to my drill and use a little metal polish to smooth it out. After that a shot of silicone and you should be good to go.

                      I try and make the area as free as resistance as possible before I resort to banging with mallets.

                      I have also found with these things that rotating works better than straight force. Have you tried twisting it left and right as you install. Kind of cork screwing it down as you go back and forth.

                      If the supertrapp is stainless it may be a biatch to cut and if it is not stainless but plated, cutting it is an invitation to rust.

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                        #12
                        I found that rocking it on and off was as good as the rubber mallet. I'll try the "aggressive steel wool" and retry.
                        GS History: 1980 GS1000E, 1982 GS1100G, 1983 GS1100ES, 1986 GSXR750,
                        Current: 1983 GS1100ED, 2006 Suzuki 650 VStrom, 2009 Concours C14 ABS,

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                          #13
                          Heat the slip on, put it in the oven at 500
                          1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head
                          1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017

                          I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Fjbj40 View Post
                            Heat the slip on, put it in the oven at 500
                            This had crossed my mind. Guess I'll use welding gloves to install it then.
                            GS History: 1980 GS1000E, 1982 GS1100G, 1983 GS1100ES, 1986 GSXR750,
                            Current: 1983 GS1100ED, 2006 Suzuki 650 VStrom, 2009 Concours C14 ABS,

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                              #15
                              Maybe use an exhaust pipe expansion tool?
                              sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
                              1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
                              2015 CAN AM RTS


                              Stuff I've done to my bike 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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