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    Have to prime to fill float bowls when sitting more than 24 hours

    Hi,

    Ive noticed when my 78 GS750 sits more than 24 hours. I have to prime my bike in order for it to start easily. It usually takes 4-5 seconds for the fuel to stop flowing (clear fuel filter). I don't remember needing to do this on my other GS' that I had in the past. The carbs were cleaned a few months ago and I didn't see any real wear on the needle and seat. I know the floats themselves float properly and don't sink when placed in gas. Is this normal? Should I be pressure testing my float pins and seats?

    thanks in advance
    Matt
    1978 Suzuki GS750

    Past bikes owned:
    1978 Suzuki GS750E, 1979 Suzuki GS750E, 1980 Suzuki GS850, 1977 Suzuki GS550, 1969 Honda CB350, 1976 Harley Davidson SS175, 1979 Motobecane 50V, 1978 Puch Maxi, 1977 Puch Newport, 1980 Tomos Bullet, 1978 Motobecane 50VLA, 1978 AMF Roadmaster

    #2
    You shouldnt. If it just 4 seconds or so just choke it and go.
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      #3
      Did you check fuel level in the bowls? It's important to do this, not just set float height. Assuming the fuel level is correct you shouldn't have to prime after only 24 hours unless it's super hot outside.
      Ed

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        #4
        @nessism I did both. Everything seems fine on that front. It's about 70 degrees out today but a little cooler in my garage.

        thanks
        Matt
        1978 Suzuki GS750

        Past bikes owned:
        1978 Suzuki GS750E, 1979 Suzuki GS750E, 1980 Suzuki GS850, 1977 Suzuki GS550, 1969 Honda CB350, 1976 Harley Davidson SS175, 1979 Motobecane 50V, 1978 Puch Maxi, 1977 Puch Newport, 1980 Tomos Bullet, 1978 Motobecane 50VLA, 1978 AMF Roadmaster

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          #5
          I have to prime my fuel bowls if the bike sits for a few days, doesn't matter the temp either. A minute or two and it's fine. Starts right up.
          sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
          1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
          2015 CAN AM RTS


          Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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            #6
            Sounds odd, like others stated earlier... usually over a week of sitting for mine. Did you check the fuel level on the bench or bike? While running?
            -1980 GS1100 LT
            -1975 Honda cb750K
            -1972 Honda cl175
            - Currently presiding over a 1970 T500

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              #7
              So it must be leaking out, that means the needle valves aren't tight.
              You'll have to find out why. The floats are set too high, or the needles need to be replaced.
              Last edited by Buffalo Bill; 02-19-2018, 06:18 PM.
              1982 GS1100G- road bike
              1990 GSX750F-(1127cc '92 GSXR engine)
              1987 Honda CBR600F Hurricane

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                #8
                Is your bike magically producing oil?

                (In other words, double and triple-check for gas in the oil.)




                The only other thing I can think of is if you left the tubes off the bowl vents, gas could evaporate a little sooner.
                Last edited by bwringer; 02-19-2018, 10:17 AM.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bwringer View Post
                  Is your bike magically producing oil?

                  (In other words, double and triple-check for gas in the oil.)




                  The only other thing I can think of is if you left the tubes off the bowl vents, gas could evaporate a little sooner.
                  I noticed how quickly the gas evaps from carbs during July. A few hot days and I gotta prime them too.
                  1982 GS1100G- road bike
                  1990 GSX750F-(1127cc '92 GSXR engine)
                  1987 Honda CBR600F Hurricane

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                    #10
                    Are you using choke after it sits for a day?
                    Jordan

                    1977 Suzuki GS750 (My first bike)
                    2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                    1973 BMW R75/5

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by bwringer View Post


                      The only other thing I can think of is if you left the tubes off the bowl vents, gas could evaporate a little sooner.
                      That's the first thing that popped into my mind - you'd be surprised how quickly fuel can evaporate when those vent hoses are left off.
                      Current:
                      Z1300A5 Locomotive (swapped my Intruder for it), GS450 Cafe Project (might never finish it....), XT500 Commuter (I know - it's a Yamaha :eek:)

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                      VL1500 Intruder (swapped for Z1300), ZX9R Streetfighter (lets face it - too fast....), 1984 GSX750EF, 1984 GSX1100EF (AKA GS1150)
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bwringer View Post
                        Is your bike magically producing oil?

                        (In other words, double and triple-check for gas in the oil.)

                        And with this ^^^ if the fuel is flowing past the float valves the bowls would be full, not empty.
                        Current:
                        Z1300A5 Locomotive (swapped my Intruder for it), GS450 Cafe Project (might never finish it....), XT500 Commuter (I know - it's a Yamaha :eek:)

                        Past:
                        VL1500 Intruder (swapped for Z1300), ZX9R Streetfighter (lets face it - too fast....), 1984 GSX750EF, 1984 GSX1100EF (AKA GS1150)
                        And a bunch of other crap Yamahas....

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                          #13
                          Actually I did leave them off when I cleaned the carbs.. I don't recall my other GS series bikes having the vent tubes attached either but it's been awhile. I'll try that first before I tear into the carbs again.

                          thanks guys!
                          Matt
                          1978 Suzuki GS750

                          Past bikes owned:
                          1978 Suzuki GS750E, 1979 Suzuki GS750E, 1980 Suzuki GS850, 1977 Suzuki GS550, 1969 Honda CB350, 1976 Harley Davidson SS175, 1979 Motobecane 50V, 1978 Puch Maxi, 1977 Puch Newport, 1980 Tomos Bullet, 1978 Motobecane 50VLA, 1978 AMF Roadmaster

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by mattd1205 View Post
                            Actually I did leave them off when I cleaned the carbs.. I don't recall my other GS series bikes having the vent tubes attached either but it's been awhile. I'll try that first before I tear into the carbs again.

                            thanks guys!
                            Matt
                            Yup, put them back on, there are there for a reason.
                            sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
                            1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
                            2015 CAN AM RTS


                            Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by hillsy View Post
                              And with this ^^^ if the fuel is flowing past the float valves the bowls would be full, not empty.
                              Whoops, yeah, you're right. Good point.
                              1983 GS850G, Cosmos Blue.
                              2005 KLR685, Aztec Pink - Turd II.3, the ReReReTurdening
                              2015 Yamaha FJ-09, Magma Red Power Corrupts...
                              Eat more venison.

                              Please provide details. The GSR Hive Mind is nearly omniscient, but not yet clairvoyant.

                              Celeriter equita, converteque saepe.

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