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    Slip-on mufflers?

    My 83 GS850 has some pretty pitted pipes... I will patch what I can and paint it black until I can wrap it back to the mufflers. I have considered longer fishtail mufflers to bring the tips out past the bags, but this year the budges says I can extend mine back with a slip-on set up for when I can upgrade the mufflers. I will be welding pinholes closed in the crossover pipe.

    What are the thoughts on this plan?

    #2
    Rather than weld the pinholes, just get rid of the crossover.

    Take a look HERE, the info is in post #10.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Steve View Post
      Rather than weld the pinholes, just get rid of the crossover.

      Take a look HERE, the info is in post #10.

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      Not a bad idea, Steve. The only reason I hesitated was because of what (if any) changes it would cause, though I understand any bit would be minute. I might just do that. I want to extend my mufflers backward anyway, so it wouldn't make a difference.

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        #4
        "Any changes it might cause"??? The only change will be a very slight change in the exhaust sound. It is so slight, it would likely have to be pointed out, and then you still might not hear it.

        As far as slip-on mufflers are concerned, some have had decent success with Harley take-offs. The Sportster model actually looks decent, too.

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        mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
        hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
        #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
        #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
        Family Portrait
        Siblings and Spouses
        Mom's first ride
        Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
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          #5
          Originally posted by Steve View Post
          "Any changes it might cause"??? The only change will be a very slight change in the exhaust sound. It is so slight, it would likely have to be pointed out, and then you still might not hear it.

          As far as slip-on mufflers are concerned, some have had decent success with Harley take-offs. The Sportster model actually looks decent, too.

          .

          After I replied I went and read your full post...

          I put Harley Take-offs on my shadow when I had it a few years ago and they looked great. Got the pair for 25 bucks! Wish I didn't send them off with the bike.... Can't find a deal like that now haha

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            #6
            Originally posted by Steve View Post
            As far as slip-on mufflers are concerned, some have had decent success with Harley take-offs. The Sportster model actually looks decent, too.

            .
            Ditto on that.
            I have a pair of Hardly Dyna slashcut stockers on my XJ, and aside from an intial setup, they run fine. I discovered the internal baffle plate is positioned differently on each one, to suit the cylinder characteristics of the V-twin, no doubt, but it led to a strange uneven note and a bit of vibeyness on mine.
            Soon sorted out the spacing with rigorous crowbar technique and application of stainless pot scrubbers.
            The result is a nice, free-flowing system that doesn't sound any louder than the stock pipes.
            Oh, yes; and it cost me a quid for the mufflers and a quid for the scrubbers.
            Gotta keep the costs under control.
            Last edited by Grimly; 04-14-2018, 09:17 PM.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Grimly View Post
              Ditto on that.
              I have a pair of Hardly Dyna slashcut stockers on my XJ, and aside from an intial setup, they run fine. I discovered the internal baffle plate is positioned differently on each one, to suit the cylinder characteristics of the V-twin, no doubt, but it led to a strange uneven note and a bit of vibeyness on mine.
              Soon sorted out the spacing with rigorous crowbar technique and application of stainless pot scrubbers.
              The result is a nice, free-flowing system that doesn't sound any louder than the stock pipes.
              Oh, yes; and it cost me a quid for the mufflers and a quid for the scrubbers.
              Gotta keep the costs under control.
              I think I found a set, the fella I work with said they're nice long chrome mofos like I've wanted!

              I need to do some pit repair on my header pipes though, #2 and#3 are a little spotty, and the "y" on each side has seen much better days. I just need to figure out whether they will be worth saving or if I need to get some fresh 45's to weld into place. Anyone have luck brazing?

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                #8
                I have brazed up a set of mufflers, if i recall I used silicon bronze rod and a tig torch, probs not necessary but I had access at the time.
                1983 GS 1100 ESD :D

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by greg78gs750 View Post
                  I have brazed up a set of mufflers, if i recall I used silicon bronze rod and a tig torch, probs not necessary but I had access at the time.
                  Here at Napa I have some Brass alloy rods (not specifying what kind of alloy) And I hope I could use that with a propane torch.

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                    #10
                    Be aware that the pipe from the header flange to the "Y" is double-walled.

                    The chrome you see is only on the decorative outer pipe.

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                    mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                    hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                    #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                    #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                    Family Portrait
                    Siblings and Spouses
                    Mom's first ride
                    Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                    (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Steve View Post
                      Be aware that the pipe from the header flange to the "Y" is double-walled.

                      The chrome you see is only on the decorative outer pipe.

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                      ALL THE WAY from the 'y' to the flange??? I plan on patching holes and painting everything up to the mufflers. But damn, I didn't know they were just covers!

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                        #12
                        Oh, they are pretty sturdy 'covers', but the exhaust does not touch the inside of the chrome pipe directly.

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                        mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                        hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                        #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                        #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                        Family Portrait
                        Siblings and Spouses
                        Mom's first ride
                        Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                        (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Steve View Post
                          Oh, they are pretty sturdy 'covers', but the exhaust does not touch the inside of the chrome pipe directly.

                          .
                          I wouldn't have guessed!

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                            #14
                            Well, not sure which will show it better, so here is the end of the pipe that fits into the "Y", with and without flash:





                            This is on a set of '79 850 pipes that will be on my wife's bike in a few days.

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                            mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                            Family Portrait
                            Siblings and Spouses
                            Mom's first ride
                            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                            (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                              #15
                              If that propane torch is one of those bottle jobbies with a screw on head it won't get hot enough to braze with other than maybe for thin wall sheet metal using silver.
                              Ed

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