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    Question on using Evaporust

    I need to take care of rusting in a recently acquired 82 GS tank. I've tried to search out some shops in the area that would be willing to tackle the task but haven't been able to find any that do that kind of work and the one that might has such low ratings and poor reviews I'm not willing to trust it to them. So looks like I'm doing it.

    Evaporust has good reviews but it's looking like the tank needs to be completely filled for it to work properly. 6 Gallons of Evaporust is going to be pricey. Since this is a water based formula can you mix it with water? Can I pour in 2 gallons of evaporust and the rest water and it still be effective? The information on their website is quite vague on this subject.

    Thanks,
    Josh

    #2
    A couple gallons is enough. Rotate the tank and shake it every 15 mins. or so to keep the surface wet and you won't have any issues.
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

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      #3
      5 gallons of 8% vinegar from wally world is about 10 bucks. And Vinegar wont eat any paint if its good and you spill on it. Can stay in there for a day or two without any worries.
      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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        #4
        CHuck I had read a few posts where folks were saying vinegar didn't help and actually made matters worse.

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          #5
          Video on using Metal Rescue on a gas tank:



          Metal Rescue & Evaporust look to be pretty equivalent except Evaporust is also available as a gel.
          One of the Velocity Channel car shows demonstrated using the gel on a vertical car panel. They used plastic wrap to keep the gel from drying out.


          Both are available via Amazon Prime. You’ll save some $$$ by getting the 5 gallon size.

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            #6
            If the paint on the tank is good and you plan to save it then Evaporust, or maybe that Metal Rescue stuff, is an excellent choice. If the tank is getting a full repaint I'd get something like Kleenstrip Etch and Prep which is phosphoric acid. You can use this stuff on a tank with paint as well since the phosphoric acid is safe for short exposure on paint, it's just that you need to watch the tank and take care of any seeping at your plugs or the paint job will suffer. Key aspect with any tank cleaning is to rinse well and be ready to dry out the tank quickly to avoid flash rusting. I like to dump some alcohol in the tank after rinsing and dumping out the rinse water. Swish around the alcohol and dump that out, then follow up with a good heavy blast of WD-40 to further help protect the metal. There may still be some light orange tinge to the metal but this will be minor and nothing to worry about.

            Oh, and needless to say you need to fashion some good solid plugs for all the tank openings before beginning any of this. Don't rely on the petcock, fuel cap, and tank sending unit (if used) to seal the tank. Remove all the factory fittings and make something more robust.
            Ed

            To measure is to know.

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              #7
              Vinegars never failed for me.
              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                #8
                Well I bought 6 gallons of vinegar. Let's see how it works.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Downs View Post
                  Well I bought 6 gallons of vinegar. Let's see how it works.
                  Be sure to post your results. It may be helpful to future tank restorers.
                  Larry

                  '79 GS 1000E
                  '93 Honda ST 1100 SOLD-- now residing in Arizona.
                  '18 Triumph Tiger 800 (gone too soon)
                  '19 Triumph Tiger 800 Christmas 2018 to me from me.
                  '01 BMW R1100RL project purchased from a friend, now for sale.

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                    #10
                    My thing is once the zinc treatment ( or whatever it is ) that is used on tanks when they are made is compromised they keep being prone to rust unless you do a liner or keep it topped off. What I would like to see is a way to restore that original protection and have it still look like the original OEM metal surface.
                    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      #11
                      Use the 8% and if its rather heavy rust let it set as few days. I also got a wire coat hanger wit a loop bent on the end like gun cleaning rod. A Chore Boy steel pad works great for applying a bit of abrasive scrubbing to help clean things too. You get the idea.
                      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                        #12
                        My prefered method is to add some aquarium rocks to the tank and shake violently because they are small and have sharp edges so they will reach into areas other methods won't. If using phosphoric acid like Etch and Prep it's generally not needed though.
                        Ed

                        To measure is to know.

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                          #13
                          I have used nuts before. I always make sure they arte magnetic too. I use a extendable magnet to fish them out. But now the Chore Boy and wire seem to be just as effective and easier to do. I have even put a drill motor on the wire and whipped the scrubber around..that work pretty good too.
                          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                            #14
                            No way to get into the corners and/or around the filler neck using your method chuck. And nuts and bolts are too large to get into the nooks and crannies too. That's why I went to sharp edge small aquarium rocks. Down side to that method is getting them all out. It's not easy and can take a lot of time. Many aquarium rocks are poly coated too so those don't work as well as uncoated rocks. I suppose none of this matters that much if you are going to coat the tank after derusting. I'm more looking at this from the standpoint of not coating afterwards unless absolutely necessary.
                            Ed

                            To measure is to know.

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                            Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                            Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                            KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                              #15
                              End of the wire pokes very well into the rear corners and along the sides seams. I got my inspection mirrors to check. You gotta rinse the crud out a lot to inspect inside but then you know where you need to reconcentrate the efforts.
                              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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