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    1985 gs700es

    Hi, I'm new to motorcycles. Started riding last season on this fine gs700es. Didn't do anything to it, rode it until it basically stopped working. Now that it's the new season, I'm trying to get it back up and running. Doing the work myself so I can learn.

    Turned out the carborators were being clogged by the rust accumulating in my gas tank. Had the gas tank restored and coated. Hopefully no more rust! Carborators all nice and clean. In the process I figured I should replace and maintenance other parts on the bike. So I started taking stuff off to inspect and somewhere along the way in my excitement I managed to take out the airbox. BIGGEST REGRET! STUPID I KNOW! But I didn't know any better.

    Now that I'm putting the bike back together... I was struggling to get the air box back in, as I did getting it out. Ended up breaking the air box. Bend the crap out of it, and now its in two pieces.

    I can't find a replacement on eBay. Anybody know where I can find one? And if I manage to get one, do you know the secret to getting one back in?

    The thought of getting air pods seems like a nightmare, at least from what I've heard, with re-jetting and all. Maybe I am stuck with having to use air pods. Can anyone share their "2 cents" on what the beat solution could be?

    Thank you for your time.

    Also what's the difference between a gs700es and a gs700esf?

    #2
    Hopefully the rubber is still pliable. Decent price.
    Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 85 Suzuki GS 700 E Complete Air Box w/ Carburetor Intake Boots ~FastFreeShip~ at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!


    I think the F designation is for a full fairing.
    2@ \'78 GS1000

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      #3
      Makes sense. Looks like I have a gs700es "f" model then.

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        #4
        Originally posted by steve murdoch View Post
        Hopefully the rubber is still pliable. Decent price.
        Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 85 Suzuki GS 700 E Complete Air Box w/ Carburetor Intake Boots ~FastFreeShip~ at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!


        I think the F designation is for a full fairing.
        You found it! Thank you! But the tricky question is, how do I get it back in.

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          #5
          I do not know this for certain but I heard the engine has to be moved to get the air box in and out and that is why so many with this model choose to go with pods—with which the carbs come in and out in about five minutes. I had a GS700ES and it had pods. I ordered the DynoJet kit for it and just followed the instructions and it ran beautifully.
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          1983 GS1100E (Bought July 2014)
          1985 GS700ES (Bought June 2015) Sold
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            #6
            Originally posted by glib View Post
            I do not know this for certain but I heard the engine has to be moved to get the air box in and out and that is why so many with this model choose to go with pods—with which the carbs come in and out in about five minutes. I had a GS700ES and it had pods. I ordered the DynoJet kit for it and just followed the instructions and it ran beautifully.
            Thank for answering this post.

            Yeah the more I look at it, I feel like that's the only way. Do you remember which DynoJet kit you used? Part #3125 is what I found on eBay, says it's good for this bike? Also do you mind explaining to me what it means when it says, stages 1&3?

            Another question... Did you have K&N pods and the stock exhaust (4 to 2)?

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              #7
              I have an 83 GS750E. It shares the same airbox as your bike. That airbox is a fairly rare piece and doesn't come up for sale often. If I were you, I'd buy that one right now. I bought my bike with pods, and wanted to go to the stock airbox. It is much easier to get it running right with the airbox. To get the airbox in, I had to remove the carbs, boots and cam chain tensioner. I also had to take the oil lines off at the top, and get them out of the way. That still wasn't enough. I had to loosen the rear motor mounts and remove the front motor mount to let the front of the motor drop down a little. It sounds like a lot of work, but it really isn't that bad. I think it was worth it, as the bike runs great.
              https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9zH8w8Civs8ejBJWjdvYi1LNTg&resourcekey=0-hlJp0Yc4K_VN9g7Jyy4KQg&authuser=fussbucket_1%40msn.com&usp=drive_fs
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              1981 HD XLH

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              Drew's 83 750E Project

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                #8
                Originally posted by DR3 View Post
                Thank for answering this post.

                Yeah the more I look at it, I feel like that's the only way. Do you remember which DynoJet kit you used? Part #3125 is what I found on eBay, says it's good for this bike? Also do you mind explaining to me what it means when it says, stages 1&3?

                Another question... Did you have K&N pods and the stock exhaust (4 to 2)?
                I used part #3125, Stage 3 which is for pods. Stage 1 (different main jets) is for stock airbox. Here’s the link to the instructions: http://www.dynojet.com/pdf/3125.pdf. I did have K&N filters and the stock exhaust.

                I would not try to talk anyone out of stock configuration. I have stuck with it on my 1100s. But I took the carbs out of my 700ES several times and it was a snap without the airbox. I would have been really annoyed to have to move the engine in addition to the normal shoehorning. I looked for a stock airbox initially but never missed having it. Pods are louder but not a bother IMO.
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                1983 GS1100ES (Bought July 2014)
                1983 GS1100E (Bought July 2014)
                1985 GS700ES (Bought June 2015) Sold
                On Christ the Solid Rock I Stand
                All Other Ground is Sinking Sand

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jsandidge View Post
                  I have an 83 GS750E. It shares the same airbox as your bike. That airbox is a fairly rare piece and doesn't come up for sale often. If I were you, I'd buy that one right now. I bought my bike with pods, and wanted to go to the stock airbox. It is much easier to get it running right with the airbox. To get the airbox in, I had to remove the carbs, boots and cam chain tensioner. I also had to take the oil lines off at the top, and get them out of the way. That still wasn't enough. I had to loosen the rear motor mounts and remove the front motor mount to let the front of the motor drop down a little. It sounds like a lot of work, but it really isn't that bad. I think it was worth it, as the bike runs great.
                  Thanks for your answering this post.

                  Your right, it's a rare part. Thank you for the link. I ended up ordering both. Got the air box and a set of air pods. I'm actually curious to see the difference between the two. Figured I'd order the dynojet kit anyway as well. Bike came with a K&N filter for the stock air box and not sure if the previous owner re-jetted his carbs. I'll just swap the pods back to the stock air box if anything.
                  Last edited by DR3; 04-29-2018, 01:40 PM.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by glib View Post
                    I used part #3125, Stage 3 which is for pods. Stage 1 (different main jets) is for stock airbox. Here’s the link to the instructions: http://www.dynojet.com/pdf/3125.pdf. I did have K&N filters and the stock exhaust.

                    I would not try to talk anyone out of stock configuration. I have stuck with it on my 1100s. But I took the carbs out of my 700ES several times and it was a snap without the airbox. I would have been really annoyed to have to move the engine in addition to the normal shoehorning. I looked for a stock airbox initially but never missed having it. Pods are louder but not a bother IMO.
                    Awesome, thank you! Yeah it looks simple enough and convenient to do maintenance.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by DR3 View Post
                      Also what's the difference between a gs700es and a gs700esf?
                      Originally posted by steve murdoch View Post
                      I think the F designation is for a full fairing.
                      Originally posted by DR3 View Post
                      Makes sense. Looks like I have a gs700es "f" model then.
                      Yes, you do have an ESF, but not for that reason.

                      The "F" after the "ES" is merely the designation for the '85 model year, which happens to be "F".

                      Full information HERE, just scroll down a bit.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Steve View Post
                        Yes, you do have an ESF, but not for that reason.

                        The "F" after the "ES" is merely the designation for the '85 model year, which happens to be "F".

                        Full information HERE, just scroll down a bit.

                        .
                        The metal tab labeled "f" next to the vin number indicates I have an "esf" yes?
                        Last edited by DR3; 04-29-2018, 09:24 PM. Reason: Adding picture

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                          #13
                          Yes, it does. And if your bike were one year older (an '84 model), it would have an "E" there, making it an "ESE".

                          Another year older than that ('83), it would be an "ESD".

                          About the only place you will ever see or hear the "F" is on parts fiches when you go to order parts, but if you are doing this at a dealer, the parts geek probably doesn't even know what it means, he (she) thinks it's an entirely different model.

                          .
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                          mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                          hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                          #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                          #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                          Family Portrait
                          Siblings and Spouses
                          Mom's first ride
                          Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                          (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Steve View Post
                            Yes, it does. And if your bike were one year older (an '84 model), it would have an "E" there, making it an "ESE".

                            Another year older than that ('83), it would be an "ESD".

                            About the only place you will ever see or hear the "F" is on parts fiches when you go to order parts, but if you are doing this at a dealer, the parts geek probably doesn't even know what it means, he (she) thinks it's an entirely different model.

                            .
                            I see... that makes sense. Thank you for educating me.

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