Pingel fuel valve

[headsbikesmopars]

Anyone using a pingel fuel valve on their GS's ? Tired of rebuilding the OEM yearly . Thinking of a manual petcock I can trust with enough flow for my GS1150 .

[Baatfam]

Anyone using a pingel fuel valve on their GS's ? Tired of rebuilding the OEM yearly . Thinking of a manual petcock I can trust with enough flow for my GS1150 .

A. You shouldn't be rebuilding your petcock every year. A new stock OEM petcock will last 20 years.
B. There are no petcock rebuild kits that work.
C. A Pingel costs about the same as stock, (pretty sure on that), looks cool, but will probably start leaking in 5-8 years.

Just to be clear, I've had pingels, I have my second pingel on my 1100E right now.

[LAB3]

My bike came with a broken vacuum petcock which was left on prime and an online manual valve. This worked good enough until one morning when I woke up to find I left the valve open. Had a puddle of gas under the bike and my crankcase full of gas, not something you want to see when you live on the road and repairs happen where you're at instead of a garage.

By he time you make or buy an adapter and the pingle you're better off and ahead money wise to get a quality vaccum petcock. Mine came from Z1 Enterprises which is a lower priced alternative to stock.

[rphillips]

There must be a flaw in your orig. if it's giving problems yearly. My vote goes to another OEM, shoot the days of the old CB750's & KZ900's have been gone longer than the old phone booths. Over the yrs, I've had a couple of OEM's. go bad, but I must have been lucky, a rebuild fixed both with no further problems. Just another opinion.

[posplayr]

Anyone using a pingel fuel valve on their GS's ? Tired of rebuilding the OEM yearly . Thinking of a manual petcock I can trust with enough flow for my GS1150 .

Terry, outwest I rang into starvation problems with my 1166 despite the lower jetting requirements on sustained ride over the ton (on sanctioned tracks of course).

The pingle eliminated that fuel starvation and over 5 or so years I never saw any leakage on a single port pingle.

[headsbikesmopars]

Type of info I was looking for , Thanks Jim.

[Baatfam]

Type of info I was looking for , Thanks Jim.

Interesting....
Looks like you found the answer you wanted....

Three good folks said get the OEM. It works, last for 20 years, and cost no more than a Pingal.
One person said the Pingal solved a problem for them, and that's the answer your "looking for"

Well they do look cool.... Good luck....

[Steve]

I can see the advantage of a manual valve if you are racing, where you will likely have very low manifold vacuum level to keep a vacuum-operated petcock open, but for general street use, I prefer OEM.

You need enough flow to feed your 1150? Is it stock or built-up? If you were to run flat out (at a proper location, of course), how long would your tank last? It takes less than 10 minutes for my 850 tank (5.8 gallons) to drain with the OEM petcock. If you can run your 1150 longer than that at top speed, an OEM petcock has "enough flow".

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[Rob S.]

It takes less than 10 minutes for my 850 tank (5.8 gallons) to drain with the OEM petcock.

You've run through a whole tank of gas nonstop at full throttle?!?

Another reason to like you.

[posplayr]

I can see the advantage of a manual valve if you are racing, where you will likely have very low manifold vacuum level to keep a vacuum-operated petcock open, but for general street use, I prefer OEM.

You need enough flow to feed your 1150? Is it stock or built-up? If you were to run flat out (at a proper location, of course), how long would your tank last? It takes less than 10 minutes for my 850 tank (5.8 gallons) to drain with the OEM petcock. If you can run your 1150 longer than that at top speed, an OEM petcock has "enough flow".

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WOT with Stock 1100, 4:1 , pods, 0.340 webcams could not get above about 120 mph before started to miss. No hint of redline issues in lower gears. Similarly with 1166 holding partial throttle at about 110 mph, got similar missing with a fat 140 main.
going to Pringle eliminated the problem.
missing was like a small surge that would come and go at like a 2 sec interval. The first time it happened I accelerated to redline in 2.3.4 but in 5 could only hit 120 before the missing

[nastyjones]

I run flatslides on mine so I needed the dual outlet Pingel. When I looked into replacing it I found Pingel will rebuild the old one for $20.00.
Works a treat now.

[Steve]

You've run through a whole tank of gas nonstop at full throttle?!?

Another reason to like you.

I guess a few more details are necessary (for YOU).

This was done in the shop, draining the tank so I could work on the fuel level sending unit.

WOT with Stock 1100, 4:1 , pods, 0.340 webcams could not get above about 120 mph before started to miss. No hint of redline issues in lower gears. Similarly with 1166 holding partial throttle at about 110 mph, got similar missing with a fat 140 main.
going to Pringle eliminated the problem.
missing was like a small surge that would come and go at like a 2 sec interval. The first time it happened I accelerated to redline in 2.3.4 but in 5 could only hit 120 before the missing

I think the issue there is not so much "overall fuel flow" as it is "overall fuel flow AT WOT".

With the throttle wide open, there is simply not enough vacuum to hold the petcock open. That was mentioned in post #8 under the pretense of "racing situations". If you regularly ride a WOT for minutes at a time (or more), a vacuum-operated petcock might not work. For those of us that don't live on a race track, it works quite well.

And, ... I would be willing to place a wager that if you put your OEM petcock in the PRIme position (so it would not have to rely on vacuum), it would not cause the starvation problems at WOT.

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[posplayr]

Steve, I mentioned two cases where I saw what I assumed was fuel starvation. Only the first was WOT. The second was less that 1/2 WOT.

The 1/2 WOT incident was after going to 1166cc for 1075cc (stock)

[headsbikesmopars]

Interesting....
Looks like you found the answer you wanted....

Three good folks said get the OEM. It works, last for 20 years, and cost no more than a Pingal.
One person said the Pingal solved a problem for them, and that's the answer your "looking for"

Well they do look cool.... Good luck....

My question was "Anyone using a Pingel on their GS's" ? Instead I received 'reasons' why I didn't need a Pingel . Not really what I was asking was it, so yes " the type of info I was looking for" , someone with experience with Pingel fuel valves on their GS's .

[Baatfam]

My question was "Anyone using a Pingel on their GS's" ? Instead I received 'reasons' why I didn't need a Pingel . Not really what I was asking was it, so yes " the type of info I was looking for" , someone with experience with Pingel fuel valves on their GS's .

Sorry if I sounded snarky...it wasn't the best day...So you have my apology...

However, I am someone "using a Pingel on their GS" as you requested.
My '83 GS1100E, is on its second Pingel in 10 years...
I just don't think it has any advantage over stock, only disadvantages...
Next time it fails, I am going back to stock...

Had one a low 9 sec, GS drag bike too, and it also needed to be replaced once...

But hey...It's your money...

Regards