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    Wont go over 5000rpm

    Im rebuilding a 1982 Gs650 GL abd I just had the carburetors cleaned because the were completely clogged. When I start the bike, it runs smooth a 1000rpm but when i try to bring it up, it wont go over 5000rpm and if I try to open the throttle more, the bike starts to die. I know it’s probably a fuel problem but I dont know where. Ideas?

    thanks!


    L.Leblanc

    #2
    1. How were the carbs "cleaned"?

    2. Do you have the air box installed?

    3. Have the valves been adjusted?

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      #3
      The carburetors were stripped, the jets, bowls and other conduits were cleaned(I didnt do it a expert did it). The air box is installed in order to accommodate the r/r but we put 4 individual air filter on each carburetors and took the air pipe off so the air box isnt connected to the carburetors. I didnt touch the valves.
      4E9D54CC-5925-4765-8043-82C9939896CB.jpg On this picture the air box isnt installed yet but you can see the air filters

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        #4
        I would question your expert on how the "other conduits" were cleaned. These are small passages that can not be cleaned by simply blowing cleaner through them, they need to be SOAKED.

        With your individual filters, you will need to re-jet the carbs. Good luck with that project.

        Please check valve adjustment.

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        mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
        hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
        #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
        #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
        Family Portrait
        Siblings and Spouses
        Mom's first ride
        Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
        (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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          #5
          Originally posted by Simonak3000 View Post
          ...the air box isnt connected to the carburetors.
          BINGO!

          Maybe it's not an issue. My Sportster never revved over 6k.
          1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

          2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Rob S. View Post
            My Sportster never revved over 6k.
            Does a Harley ever rev above 6k? What is the redline?

            Not meaning this as a jab at Harley, I'm just curious how high they DO rev.

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            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
            Family Portrait
            Siblings and Spouses
            Mom's first ride
            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
            (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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              #7
              Originally posted by Steve View Post
              Does a Harley ever rev above 6k? What is the redline?

              Not meaning this as a jab at Harley, I'm just curious how high they DO rev.

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              It'll turn 6k, until it won't! At that point you'll be wanting or wishing you where wearing Kevlar tidy whities.
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                #8
                Rejet the carbs?

                Originally posted by Steve View Post
                I would question your expert on how the "other conduits" were cleaned. These are small passages that can not be cleaned by simply blowing cleaner through them, they need to be SOAKED.

                With your individual filters, you will need to re-jet the carbs. Good luck with that project.

                Please check valve adjustment.

                .
                re-jet the carbs? What does that mean? Im not an expert im just a beginner. And the guy who did my carb cleaning told me he soaked the parts.

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                  #9
                  You have a lean condition. Meaning your carbs are getting too much air, and not enough fuel. You need to put bigger (likely 2 sizes bigger) main jets in them. Pilot jets up one size, and You will also need to raise your needles up a notch, possibly 2. You may be able to avoid all of that, by hooking your airbox back up to the stock configuration.
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                    #10
                    So because of my new filters, the engine is getting too much air for the fuel it gets?

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                      #11
                      That is exactly what is happening. When you add more air, you must add more fuel. And vice versa...
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                        #12
                        And do you think it will be expensive to change the 4 main jets and pilot jets? I can do that or put back the original filter. Or could I find filters that let in less air than mine?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Steve View Post
                          Does a Harley ever rev above 6k? What is the redline?

                          Not meaning this as a jab at Harley, I'm just curious how high they DO rev.
                          My Sporty turned 6k a few times. But from 5 to 6k is completely useless.

                          Originally posted by Simonak3000 View Post
                          And do you think it will be expensive to change the 4 main jets and pilot jets? I can do that or put back the original filter. Or could I find filters that let in less air than mine?
                          After I disposed of the stock airbox and installed pods (individual filters), but before I had the carbs rejetted, my bike sputtered and I could barely make it around the block. So I covered up around 90% of the pods with electrical tape and it ran fine.

                          I probably paid $200 - $300, parts and labor, to have my Suzi jetted on a dynamometer.
                          1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                          2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Simonak3000 View Post
                            And do you think it will be expensive to change the 4 main jets and pilot jets? I can do that or put back the original filter. Or could I find filters that let in less air than mine?
                            Since you are new to this, put the airbox back on
                            There are no simple solutions to rejetting yourcarbs for pods
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                              #15
                              Put your year and model in your signature.
                              1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                              2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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