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    Strange Issue in the Rain

    I went out to run and errand last week and took the motorcycle. 1981 gs850G. On the way back I got caught in a torrential down pour. I'm on the interstate and once I get closer to my house I decide to get off the highway for safeties sake. I taking city streets back to my place and the bike keeps dying at every stop light. I have to keep reving the engine to keep it from dying. I pull over and put the petcock in reserve thinking I'm low on fuel (my gas gauge stopped working a while ago) but that doesn't fix the situation and I can see gas flowing through my filter so the engine is getting fuel. Not wanting to try to attempt a fix in the rain and being pretty close to my house I make sure to keep the revs up at stop lights and get it home and I figure it might be clogged idle jets. I should also add it would only restart with choke.

    Once the rain stops I go out to the bike and it starts up right away and idles correctly without dying.

    Anyway the bikes at my buddies shop, we put new tires on it and checked the valves (this was a bit overdue) and two of the four exhaust valves were outta spec so I'm waiting on new shims right now

    I'm still stumped why the bike ran so different in the rain, is water getting into the tank? or airbox?
    1981 GS 850G

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    #2
    I was going to say you probably got water into your spark plug caps, but my experience is that this causes problems in the higher rpms vs lower, but it can be something to check. How old are they, how is the rubber?
    Motors can suck in quite a bit of water and run. You can probably reproduce the issue with a good wash, I've found bad ignition coils that would only arc to ground when there was enough moisture in the air, like from the steamy wet engine in the rain.
    1981 Suzuki GS250T
    1982 Yamaha Seca Turbo
    1985 Suzuki GS550E
    2004 Suzuki GSF1200S

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      #3
      water in the electrics sounds more plausible. maybe the water is causing a connection to arc out somewhere causing a weak spark or low voltage to the system?
      1978 GS1085.

      Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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        #4
        If I wash my "98" Bandit 1200 at the pressure car wash, one cyl. will be dead till I ride a few miles. I'm sure it's the water on a plug wire, but it's never caused a problem, eventually, after the water dries off, it kicks in & is good to go.
        1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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          #5
          Contact breaker cover gasket?
          -1980 GS1100 LT
          -1975 Honda cb750K
          -1972 Honda cl175
          - Currently presiding over a 1970 T500

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            #6
            Water on the HT leads is the most likely i would say. After dark you can see them arcing out sometimes.
            This is what WD-40 was invented for. Spray the leads every once in a while and keep them free of dirt, it hangs on to water longer.
            97 R1100R
            Previous
            80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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              #7
              A little silicone grease on the outside of the wires before reinserting them into the boots does wonders.
              1980 Yamaha XS1100G (Current bike)
              1982 GS450txz (former bike)
              LONG list of previous bikes not listed here.

              I identify as a man but according to the label on a box of Stauffers Baked Lasagne I'm actually a family of four

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                #8
                I had bad rubber spark plug cap seals - the ones on the end of the cap that seals the cap / plug.
                Very predictably my bike ran like garbage after a wash or sitting in the rain. After the engine warmed and evaporated the water, things were fine. I finally replaced them and cured it.
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                Glen
                -85 1150 es - Plus size supermodel.
                -Rusty old scooter.
                Other things I like to photograph.....instagram.com/gs_junkie
                https://www.instagram.com/glen_brenner/
                https://www.flickr.com/photos/152267...7713345317771/

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                  #9
                  Hey Dork, have you seen the spark plug caps on a Bandit 1200? Ain't nothing like on your 1150. Works the same but totally different, they even seal water away from the spark plug & spark plug hole.
                  1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                    #10
                    I've seen those. Probably keeps the crud out as well.
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                    When consulting the magic 8 ball for advice, one must first ask it "will your answers be accurate?"

                    Glen
                    -85 1150 es - Plus size supermodel.
                    -Rusty old scooter.
                    Other things I like to photograph.....instagram.com/gs_junkie
                    https://www.instagram.com/glen_brenner/
                    https://www.flickr.com/photos/152267...7713345317771/

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                      #11
                      Certain Harley mods include a rain "sock" to prevent water from entering the intake.
                      1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                      2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                        #12
                        Personally I never liked to see bikes wearing socks, one reason I never had a Harley.
                        1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                          #13
                          I agree. The only proper Harley air cleaner is similar to this:
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                          BTW, the only proper Harley exhaust is identical to the one pictured above.
                          1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                          2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                            #14
                            Water ingress is the most likely thing, I notated that you have an inline fuel filter is this a new fitment as inline filters generally will not allow fuel to pass through enough for good running.
                            The big guy up there rides a Suzuki (this I know)
                            1981 gs850gx

                            1999 RF900
                            past bikes. RF900
                            TL1000s
                            Hayabusa
                            gsx 750f x2
                            197cc Francis Barnett
                            various British nails

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by fastbysuzuki View Post
                              Water ingress is the most likely thing, I notated that you have an inline fuel filter is this a new fitment as inline filters generally will not allow fuel to pass through enough for good running.

                              I've always ran the bike with an inline aftermarket filter
                              1981 GS 850G

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