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    GS650G - Choke/Starter Cable Obsolete

    My choke cable on the '82GS650G is dying. It's down to one strand.

    The fiche offers two parts:
    58400-45110 - for the old style with center knob
    58410-34X04 - with the left side thumb lever

    The old style is readily available but doesn't fit my bike. The new style is discontinued.

    I have checked Ebay for used parts without success. One part is listed, but does not match my bike.

    Alternatively, the 58410-47X00 for the '82 GS650GL is readily available and darn cheap. My understanding is that it is probably a couple inches longer than I need. Does anyone have any experience with fitting the longer cable in place?

    My only other choice would be to pay for a custom cable. Does anyone have experience with the likely eye watering price I might expect from that solution?

    Thanks, Alan
    '82 GS650G 27k
    '00 GZ250 5k "Pocket Hawg"
    ('98 GS500E 18k, new project - moved on to new home)
    '98 GSF1200 39k, new project, fixed the blown out spark plug, waiting on time
    '05 Moto Guzzi Nevada 750IE (the Pocket Hawg's days are numbered)

    #2
    The longer L cable should work fine as long as it's the same style choke lever on the handlebar. I usually upgrade all of my bikes to the later style handlebar lever choke as opposed to the one mounted in the center of the triple trees. Never ran into a cable compatibility problem. The extra length of the cable should be easily compensated for through proper routing.
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    1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
    1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
    1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

    Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

    JTGS850GL aka Julius

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      #3
      As was mentioned in the thread last week, choke cable elimination. Just the reason the old choke on the carbs was a better idea, there could be no wrong cable or discontinued part # for one.
      1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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        #4
        Originally posted by rphillips View Post
        As was mentioned in the thread last week, choke cable elimination. Just the reason the old choke on the carbs was a better idea, there could be no wrong cable or discontinued part # for one.
        Ya, but some of us like to have an available choke withing arms reach without groping for it.
        http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
        1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
        1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
        1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

        Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

        JTGS850GL aka Julius

        GS Resource Greetings

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          #5
          My only other choice would be to pay for a custom cable.
          Not quite. If you seriously can't find it, Modify some other cable....go to the bicycle store-it's about the right gauge -a rear brake cable might do it... and, you can make the ends if you need to-solder,flux, on cleaned ends that you spread a bit.

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            #6
            Re-soldering cable ends

            Originally posted by Gorminrider View Post
            Not quite. If you seriously can't find it, Modify some other cable....go to the bicycle store-it's about the right gauge -a rear brake cable might do it... and, you can make the ends if you need to-solder,flux, on cleaned ends that you spread a bit.
            I had very poor results as a kid with this technique using silver solder. The cable ended up kinda brittle and never lasted a year on our mini-bike. Have you had good results with lead based solder? I have bicycle brake cable and casing in the basement.

            Thanks, Alan
            '82 GS650G 27k
            '00 GZ250 5k "Pocket Hawg"
            ('98 GS500E 18k, new project - moved on to new home)
            '98 GSF1200 39k, new project, fixed the blown out spark plug, waiting on time
            '05 Moto Guzzi Nevada 750IE (the Pocket Hawg's days are numbered)

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              #7
              I have no idea what shipping (and import duty etc?) might cost, but these guys have your cable at 5.5 euros. Just over $6. https://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gs650g-...l#.Xufhd0VKjIU
              1980 GS550ET

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                #8
                Cmsl

                Originally posted by steveb922 View Post
                I have no idea what shipping (and import duty etc?) might cost, but these guys have your cable at 5.5 euros. Just over $6. https://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gs650g-...l#.Xufhd0VKjIU
                Steve,

                Nice find. Sadly Euros 27.50
                shipping.

                Thanks, Alan
                '82 GS650G 27k
                '00 GZ250 5k "Pocket Hawg"
                ('98 GS500E 18k, new project - moved on to new home)
                '98 GSF1200 39k, new project, fixed the blown out spark plug, waiting on time
                '05 Moto Guzzi Nevada 750IE (the Pocket Hawg's days are numbered)

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SusKatCas View Post
                  Steve,

                  Nice find. Sadly Euros 27.50
                  shipping.

                  Thanks, Alan
                  That's annoying!
                  1980 GS550ET

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                    #10
                    Ouch on pricing for shipping...that's taking it somewhere very uncomfortable.

                    I tried to get a couple of battery terminal brackets shipped over from Wemoto, and it was the same issue. Fixed shipping price and unable to alter the method to make the purchase worth it.
                    '83 GS650G
                    '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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                      #11
                      I just did some shopping and comparing part numbers. Yes, your 650G cable is NLA. Yes, a 650L cable is available. The part number for the 650L cable is the same as for my 850G. I don't know how much different they would be in length, but I am reasonably sure that the 650L/850G cable will work just fine.

                      That cable is $10.97 at Parts Outlaw. Don't forget to enter the promo code at the top of each of their pages to get $4.99 shipping.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by SusKatCas View Post
                        I had very poor results as a kid with this technique using silver solder. The cable ended up kinda brittle and never lasted a year on our mini-bike. Have you had good results with lead based solder? I have bicycle brake cable and casing in the basement.

                        Thanks, Alan
                        Probably an "L" cable is the way to go but...if it's too long it can be hard to route it to not look too weird...and, when you put any extra bends or loops in a cable, it increases friction so, you want wide radius-gentle bends if you want to use up extra length with bends.

                        Yes. Lead is better. You must be careful of the heat used...over-tempered steel is brittle-avoid red-hot. and any oily residue on the cable is of course a no-go. Don't trust flux to clean it....get a nice lump on there and shape it.


                        as an alternate,..you can try pre drilling a small bit of lead, push your cable through, and then push a small nail in as a wedge in to lock the cable...like an axe wedge, eh?- then shape your lead to fit...this is labour intensive and won't suit the smallest ends.

                        lastly, for EMRG you can try a stopper knot in the cable-NOT a plain overhand knot- a real stopper knot.
                        Last edited by Gorminrider; 06-16-2020, 11:23 AM.

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                          #13
                          I ordered the 650GL cable in June. It arrived about a week ago and I slapped it on this afternoon. I just needed to give it a little dog leg under the tank.

                          I am blaming Covid, instead of Bike Bandit. Denial maybe?

                          Cheers, Alan
                          '82 GS650G 27k
                          '00 GZ250 5k "Pocket Hawg"
                          ('98 GS500E 18k, new project - moved on to new home)
                          '98 GSF1200 39k, new project, fixed the blown out spark plug, waiting on time
                          '05 Moto Guzzi Nevada 750IE (the Pocket Hawg's days are numbered)

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                            #14
                            No doubt BB did not perform well since covid started. But their problems with delays, notifications, etc. got way worse, probable because of it. There's a whole other thread devoted to the topic. Partsoutlaw had a couple of hiccups with some of my orders, but all-in-all performed pretty well. PO has always beat BB on prices when I've compared, and they always have $4.99 shipping with a promo code that is at the top of their page. I think most here have pretty much given up on BB. I know I have.
                            Rich
                            1982 GS 750TZ
                            2015 Triumph Tiger 1200

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