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    #61
    clutch cable :
    Out for a test ride. clutch cable snapped. stranded.
    fixed with emergency cable repair.
    (I don't ride round with a spare clutch cable in uk)

    to do that you must cut one end and affix
    a suitable grommet end at the handlebar end.

    this got me.home. clutch cable ordered !
    UKJULES
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    Owner of following bikes:
    1980 Suzuki GS550ET
    1977 Yamaha RD 250D
    1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
    1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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      #62
      Pet tap :
      I could not with human suction hear the pet tap seal thing go out and in.
      WHICH I COULD
      on others I have in box with the correct spring.

      the spring must be the issue as it is not the right one. that is lost on the garage floor the second it dripped out.

      is it a case of chop down other spring and hope that works .. ? spose has to be
      UKJULES
      ---------------------------------
      Owner of following bikes:
      1980 Suzuki GS550ET
      1977 Yamaha RD 250D
      1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
      1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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        #63
        If you have another pet cock, in a box, remove spring from that one to see what kind of spring you will need. I'd think the length, dia., size & strength of material it is made from is very critical, Just me, sort'f close probably will not work correctly. Oh yeah, UKjulies, you've taught me something about the cables. I'd never heard of a fix for them, always thought got to be replaced. Thanks for the tip.
        Last edited by rphillips; 06-20-2022, 11:47 AM.
        1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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          #64
          Cables:
          def keep a temp fix cable in toolkit. the first time I used it mind I needed snips a didn't realise. Very hard to cut and I'd you don't it won't fit !
          Work cutter and temp cable in toolkit.

          pet tap:
          I don't have a single pet tap like the one in question. I have many gsx and others and the springs are not the same.
          So I can ow never know what the spring was like or size.

          thus I have a spring in their that clearly is producing too much force. I can only cut it down in increments and hope for the best.
          UKJULES
          ---------------------------------
          Owner of following bikes:
          1980 Suzuki GS550ET
          1977 Yamaha RD 250D
          1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
          1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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            #65
            this is the one that o need a spring for.
            it is superb and worked well until I
            list the spring.

            UKJULES
            ---------------------------------
            Owner of following bikes:
            1980 Suzuki GS550ET
            1977 Yamaha RD 250D
            1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
            1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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              #66
              Originally posted by ukjules View Post
              this is the one that o need a spring for.
              it is superb and worked well until I
              list the spring.

              https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164850461...mis&media=COPY
              Cutting a spring only strengthens it, until it's too short.
              ---- Dave

              Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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                #67
                Kind'f hard to find if you drop them...ain't it??
                1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                  #68
                  Update
                  -GSX250
                  Using the good GS swapped over RR all is good. Chucks out 13.8v .
                  It just fits moving wiring and igniter about.
                  As most said ages ago it was indeed the RR. I am yet to buy the series RR.

                  -GS550E
                  This using the old suspect battery which was on GSX and RR I had in my stock.
                  I don't know why i changed this
                  previously. It is one with a sense wire
                  but chick's out a steady 14.5v.
                  First run on charged battery all OK.
                  I am yet to buy the series RR.

                  ISSUES:
                  - GS550E
                  snapped clutch cable on test

                  - GSX250E
                  Petrol tap spring lost. This on the one
                  tap that worked perfectly with prime ,
                  on and Res and nozzles in right position
                  and cheapish.
                  UKJULES
                  ---------------------------------
                  Owner of following bikes:
                  1980 Suzuki GS550ET
                  1977 Yamaha RD 250D
                  1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
                  1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                    #69
                    Had to buy these:
                    Meccion Stainless Steel Wire Rope Cutter 8-Inch CR-V Cable Cutter for Aircraft Bicycle Cable, Steel Cable, Wire Rope, Spring Etc, Cuts Up to 1/5-Inch https://amzn.eu/d/d0r50v8

                    so I can tidy up emergency clutch cable I used and use again.
                    Didn't realise normal wire cutters just won't cut a good edge. made it difficult at the roadside with normal wire cutters.

                    Now I have the length I can cut one ready and tape end......
                    UKJULES
                    ---------------------------------
                    Owner of following bikes:
                    1980 Suzuki GS550ET
                    1977 Yamaha RD 250D
                    1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
                    1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Rich82GS750TZ View Post
                      Have some Retsina or Ouzo. Should make you decision even more clear.
                      I can recommend gin and lemonade (not carbonated) with a splash of Mastic Tears.... mind you, a couple/three of these (the way my wife makes them) and decisions go out the window.
                      -Mal

                      "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." - B. Banzai
                      ___________

                      78 GS750E

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                        #71
                        Wire cutters superb ! straight through all te strands leaving a clean edge. I would never have realised the hassle trying to cut the cable unless I broke down and was hell bent on using my emergency cable (that's slides through te original plastic liner).
                        Now have 2 cables in boot cut to right length in case clutch goes again.

                        I also for my own amusement as I'm on a roll only used tools on the bike to change to new cable.

                        Right gin and lemonade time .
                        gs still fine with the suspect battery and regulator i found but with sense wire.
                        UKJULES
                        ---------------------------------
                        Owner of following bikes:
                        1980 Suzuki GS550ET
                        1977 Yamaha RD 250D
                        1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
                        1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                          #72
                          Conclusion :
                          gsx250e- it was the regulator. swapped and re jigged my gs550 RR and been fine ever since.

                          I am yet to buy the mega RR I linked of the right type but if my 550 one fails I will.

                          GS550E- on this I have my old sense wire RR, Which for some reason I took off (as suspected this many years ago)
                          Anyway old gsx battery (which the gsx RR almost destroyed) and that old Sense wire RR , and ride to Fairford air show and back and all good.

                          All I can say how a faulty RR reveals itself sends you on a merry go round of possible fixes. I had the carbs off many times and bench tests on the RR basically said it was OK!!!!!!
                          clearly I assume it was not OK when it got hot (which it did , very ).
                          Thanks all.
                          UKJULES
                          ---------------------------------
                          Owner of following bikes:
                          1980 Suzuki GS550ET
                          1977 Yamaha RD 250D
                          1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
                          1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                            #73
                            UPDATE:

                            It has happened again !!!
                            Good battery
                            Seemingly good RR off my GS550E which worked fine.
                            Been OK for a few 15 miler rides.

                            Can get about a few miles now then dead no elec bar ignition light. no horn , lights or start. I leave say 5 mins then can go a mile again ?

                            This has totally got me now ? What on earth do I test now ?

                            I'll immediately swap batter and rr back to 550 and make sure they are fine.

                            Help !!!!
                            UKJULES
                            ---------------------------------
                            Owner of following bikes:
                            1980 Suzuki GS550ET
                            1977 Yamaha RD 250D
                            1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
                            1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                              #74
                              Multiple short trips at an average insufficient rpm result in depleted batteries.
                              is it the battery you've used all along? If so its very likely cooked.
                              1983 GS 550 LD
                              2009 BMW K1300s

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                                #75
                                It is my new battery from.my gs550e. it was
                                in perfect condition.
                                Now off and tests at 12.7v So this time
                                the zero elecs bar ignition lights is not
                                the battery. it can't be RR either.

                                I think we can assume this issue was hiding behind the prev RR issue now fixed.

                                (the old gsx battery that had been on during this debacle, is now on my gs and is restored! zero issues. iv done 2 100m trips on it)

                                I can test stator tomorrow ?
                                and prob coils. you guys want that analysis ?

                                I just can't see what else it can be ?
                                I can now never ride this again in fear of this type of breakdown so all tests must be near my house.

                                I was saved today amazingly by a chal in white van who stopped put bike on back and lift back to my house .
                                Last edited by ukjules; 07-25-2022, 02:10 PM.
                                UKJULES
                                ---------------------------------
                                Owner of following bikes:
                                1980 Suzuki GS550ET
                                1977 Yamaha RD 250D
                                1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
                                1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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