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    #16
    Since I am the only person who has worked on this bike, I do not recall playing the two blade flasher in the fuse panel, I don't even know where to get those. It has to have been me that did it though. I don't know where and when, but putting a 10 amp fuse in there now, the signal lights now work, and the bike is flashing off of the signal light flasher I posted in the previous post.

    I don't know how I screwed this up. That little box has been plugged into that fuse panels for as long as I can remember. It clicks when the signal lights are switched on. I've owned the bike 40 years, and 40 years ago, I did not know what I know now. There's no one to blame. The bike is all set now. I did not reconnect the old Horns, just made sure they were sealed as two of them do have 12 volts coming out of them when the power is on. The horn button would connect the ground. That was all by passed when I put in the FIAMM Horns.

    In place of the big metal relay is a 10 amp fuse now. It has been a morning of discovery.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Suzukian View Post
      The bike is all set now.
      That sounds like PROGRESS, did that solve all issues ?
      Congrats anyways, progress makes up for frustration, right ?
      Rijk

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        #18
        Yes, I think all issues are solved. The LED Flashers in the front are even brighter now. I have left the stock in the rear, as they are big, and those Resistors are $16 bucks a piece, ouch! Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it. I was quite young
        and did not have the electronics background I have now. I have to take responsibility though, because I am the only person who has touched the bike.

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          #19


          Perhaps that metal can is some kind of a slow blow fuse, or a fuse that auto resets when cooled?

          P.S. Pictures do add a whole lot to the discussion!
          Jim, in Central New York State.

          1980 GS750E (bought used June,1983)
          1968 CB350 Super Sport (bought new Oct,1968)
          1962 CA77 305 Dream (bought used Feb,1963)

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            #20
            Originally posted by pdqford View Post

            Perhaps that metal can is some kind of a slow blow fuse, or a fuse that auto resets when cooled?

            I took it apart, it is a flat piece of metal with a coil around it, and a set of points at the end. It's a flasher unit. It still works. it flashed (made the ticking sound, loud enough that I didn't hear the other one on the other side! Maybe it does operate as a re-settable fuse? Now you have me wondering? I will keep it for posterity.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Suzukian View Post
              Since this forum only allows one pic per post, this will take two.
              Nope, it does not....We used to have a 10 photo limit, but that was lifted with the new software.
              Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
              '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB

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                #22
                When I saw it in the picture I thought, that looks like a circuit breaker to replace the fuse way more than any turn signal flasher I've seen. Keep scratching your head, you had to be the one who put it there, probably many birthdays ago..
                1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                  #23
                  Being nosey, I just punched in 12V circuit breaker on ebay, found that exact item. I couldn't make out in your pic. but on ebay item says 10A above and 12V below, now see that's what is in your picture.... Now why and when.
                  1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                    #24
                    Must be a combination of factors, since that circuit only powers turn signals, horns and brake light switches.
                    So even when wired/fused all wrong, it should not have affected the whole bike going dead.

                    Maybe the FIAMM horns and seperate wiring/relay were hooked into the main 12V somehow,
                    and removing that restored proper power to contact, ignition, etc.

                    Well, all sorted now, cool
                    Rijk

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                      #25
                      Thats a circuit breaker in the first pic. replace it. you can use a blade fuse rated the same as the CB...

                      The second pics is the actual flasher. Or appears to be.

                      If you replace this and you still have issues - please reach out.
                      Last edited by unfocused; 07-21-2023, 12:56 PM.
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                        #26
                        I agree, it's definitely a circuit breaker. I must ave installed it over 35 years ago. The FIAMM Horns are mounted with their own circuit, even the horn button is not the original, as that kind of went to pieces, so I put in a small button switch into there. Nothing from the horn presently is wired into the motorcycles Harness, and that circuit has it's own separate relay and fuse.

                        I'm sure that's a circuit breaker. That fuse says "Flasher" on the fuse panel. That's what threw me off, especially as that fuse/circuit breaker was clicking when the signal lights were running, and loudly. When I look at the schematics, that fuse goes to many places, including the actual Flasher Relay.

                        If I scratch my head any harder on this, I'll end up with a bald spot. I don't have one now, might as well not create one. I'm confident about going out for a ride now, and trying out the new 16:" Battleaxe on it.

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