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  • Peteortiz11
    Forum Mentor
    • Aug 2015
    • 101
    • Peekskill NY

    #1

    clutch switch relocate

    Has anyone ever tried or done this?

    In an effort to keeps wires and cables to a bare minimum on the handle bars, I've eliminated the brake light switch from the brake level and used a hydraulic switch in the brake line joint just under the headlight. Works super great! Now, my challenge is how or where can I relocate the clutch switch (from the clutch perch) so as to eliminate the wire from the bars as well?

    I know, sounds crazy but as i stated earlier, I'm going for the minimalist look.

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  • Rich82GS750TZ
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    • Jun 2018
    • 5534
    • Mifflinburg, PA / Land of Tar & Chip

    #2
    Check your wiring diagram (or just follow the wires). I believe the connector may be in the headlight bucket. It’s usually a simple matter to eliminate the clutch switch. The male / female connector are set up so that you can remove the switch and complete the circuit without even redoing any of the connectors. So I’ve read.

    I’m sure you know that eliminating that switch means you’ll be able to start the bike without the clutch engaged. Well, I might not start, it might just throw you off and potentially cause unknown damage to you or other nearby persons, pets or objects.
    Last edited by Rich82GS750TZ; 03-20-2024, 10:44 PM.
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    • bitzz
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      • Nov 2015
      • 99

      #3
      '60s and '70s Triumphs and BSAs have a brake light switch in the cable jacket of the front brake cable. Maybe you could adapt that.

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      • Who Dat?
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        • Jun 2012
        • 461
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        #4
        Rich has the right idea. You can remove the switch entirely. Just follow the wires into the headlight bucket, where you will find bullet connectors into the main harness. Fortunately, one is male, the other is female, so you can pull the wires from the switch, then re-connect the main harness wires to each other.

        As Rich also warns, ... if you are not in Neutral, the bike will move if the clutch is not pulled.

        I have often offered this as a bypass option to those who are tired of pulling the clutch every time. I ask if they would like it, telling them it's a simple 2-minute mod that is reversible. I have actually performed the operation in 1 minute, 38 seconds. It only involves removing the headlight, changing the connections, re-installing the light.
        If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.

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        • Peteortiz11
          Forum Mentor
          • Aug 2015
          • 101
          • Peekskill NY

          #5
          Thanks Gents!! I really dont want to eliminate the switch; I do like the idea Bitzz came up with. I'll look into that. Thanks again for your responses.

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          Built, not Bought!

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          • Grimly
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            • Sep 2012
            • 5740
            • Ireland

            #6
            When you forget to check it's in neutral once, you will always check thereafter, so the lack of switch is no biggie. And the lack of switch removes another potential failure point, just like the neutral-light interlock.
            Just another attempt to sanitise motorcycles and make them 'safer'.
            Shyyyit, if I wanted to ride safely, I'd not buy a motorcycle in the first place.
            Dave
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            • rphillips
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              • Jun 2005
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              #7
              Your cable has got to be there anyway, possibly run the existing wire in a spiral loom along with the cable to under the tank then bring wires from headlight bucket to under tank, and connect them there. Just a thought.
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              • Peteortiz11
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                • Aug 2015
                • 101
                • Peekskill NY

                #8
                Great ideas! thx all!

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                • bwringer
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                  #9
                  Assuming you're on a GS850, which has the little exposed lever down on the right side of the bike, you could easily rig up a rear brake light switch to actuate from that lever on the cases.

                  Or just do what most of us end up doing and bypass the stupid janky unreliable thing.
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                  • TxGSrider
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                    • Aug 2015
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                    • Flower Mound, TX

                    #10
                    I removed mine all together. So far it aint ran off without me.
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                    • KiwiAlfa156
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                      • Sep 2012
                      • 652
                      • New Zealand

                      #11
                      GS in some other markets shipped from the factory without the clutch/ starter cut off and no provision in the wiring loom for one. We never had them and it's never been a problem. Just remove it unless it needs to be retained for legal reasons.
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                      • Rich82GS750TZ
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                        • Jun 2018
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                        #12
                        You can certainly disconnect the clutch/start feature. Most people will probably never have an issue. Just have to remember to be sure bike is not in gear before you press the start button. Order of operation should get ingrained in muscle memory. For me, I don’t recall if my 1972 DT 250, nor the 1986 200X needed the clutch pulled in to start, but they were kick-start. It became immediately clear if in gear when attempting to start. Every bike I’ve had since having my license needed the clutch engaged in order to start, as does my MINI. It’s an ingrained startup procedure on my bikes and car. Key on, clutch engaged, press start.
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                        • Peteortiz11
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                          • Aug 2015
                          • 101
                          • Peekskill NY

                          #13
                          Yea you guys are right! its ingrained in me to pull the clutch anyway each time I start the bike so I'm just gonna remove the thing. Thanks again!

                          1981 Suzuki GS850gl, Caf? Racer!

                          Built, not Bought!

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                          • rphillips
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                            #14
                            Why yes, only time them things were ever helpful was when somebody screwed up, and I sure ain't never go'in to do that.
                            1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                            • chuck hahn
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                              #15
                              Do away with it. just plug the two leads in the headlight bucket together
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