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    Hello! Been a while since I’ve been on. I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. Recently I noticed that my gs450t was having trouble starting. At first it would try to turn over, but if it didn’t make it on the first try, it seemed like the battery would quickly loose charge and I’d just get a little click like there wasn't enough power to turn it over and start. So I replaced the battery, but it’s doing the same thing. It makes a sound like it wants to start, but it doesn’t quite turn over. I can run beside it and jump start it, and it runs fine. Will even start once it’s warm. But with a brand new battery, it still won’t turn over on its own. Any thoughts?

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    Mine did that. I took the starter out, disassembled it and cleaned it up. It needed it. Started right up. Even it it don't help it cant hurt.
    82 1100 EZ (red)

    "You co-opting words of KV only thickens the scent of your BS. A thief and a putter-on of airs most foul. " JEEPRUSTY

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      #3
      Originally posted by steveskates View Post
      Hello! Been a while since I’ve been on. I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. Recently I noticed that my gs450t was having trouble starting. At first it would try to turn over, but if it didn’t make it on the first try, it seemed like the battery would quickly loose charge and I’d just get a little click like there wasn't enough power to turn it over and start. So I replaced the battery, but it’s doing the same thing. It makes a sound like it wants to start, but it doesn’t quite turn over. I can run beside it and jump start it, and it runs fine. Will even start once it’s warm. But with a brand new battery, it still won’t turn over on its own. Any thoughts?
      Check solenoid switch. The contact points erode over time.
      you can jumper thus bypassing the solenoid.
      youtube shows it better than I can type it.

      if not solenoid remove, disassemble, inspect starter.
      1983 GS 550 LD
      2009 BMW K1300s

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        #4
        Thank you both! I’ll take a look!!

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          #5
          Got a voltmeter?
          What is the battery voltage at rest?
          What is the battery voltage when the starter is turning?

          If the starter is turning, it's not the solenoid

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            #6
            Check voltage on the battery cables. Clean every ground connection. Check voltage across the starter solenoid when activated.

            A voltmeter and 12v test light is important when testing old electrical systems. An old 12v light socket makes a quick test light. An old low wattage 12v bulb makes a real good noid light (fuel injection)
            Current:
            1993 ZX11 - 2nd build in progress
            1977 GS750 (710 is getting closer)
            1998 Kawasaki Voyager - selling
            1998 Chevy C2500
            1999 Rav4

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              #7
              Hello again,
              I looked up the starter rebuild on YouTube, and I’m embarrassed to say- I think it’s gonna be out of my wheelhouse. I mean, I can change the oil… that’s about it. I went on eBay to try to buy a new one, because I think I can easily replace it. But, I was confused on what to buy. Most of them are around 200$-250$ but then a couple are for sale for like 70$. None of them are NOS or OEM although most claim to meet the specs. Is there anyone who could recommend what to do? Thanks!!

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                #8
                There’s a small business in my town that specializes in small electric motors. Rebuilt my starter motor for cheap, years ago. cleaned, new brushes. Good as new. Ask around.
                Rich
                1982 GS 750TZ
                2015 Triumph Tiger 1200

                BikeCliff's / Charging System Sorted / Posting Pics
                Destroy-Rebuild 750T/ Destroy-Rebuild part deux

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                  #9
                  Yep, not as many around as there yus'ta be but the starter-alternator rebuild shops can normally still be found. In past there were 4 in our town, now only 1 left.
                  1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by steveskates View Post
                    Hello again,
                    I looked up the starter rebuild on YouTube, and I’m embarrassed to say- I think it’s gonna be out of my wheelhouse. I mean, I can change the oil… that’s about it. I went on eBay to try to buy a new one, because I think I can easily replace it. But, I was confused on what to buy. Most of them are around 200$-250$ but then a couple are for sale for like 70$. None of them are NOS or OEM although most claim to meet the specs. Is there anyone who could recommend what to do? Thanks!!
                    Are you sure the video you watched was for a GS starter?
                    Because, 2 bolts and a nut to remove (most models)
                    Then, 2 bolts and pull apart, a can of electric spray from the auto parts store, and a few dabs of grease and reassemble.
                    If the brushes are worn, kits are available.

                    If you're going to own a vintage motorcycle, either learn to work on it, pay for a mechanic or sell it.
                    1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                    1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                    1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                    1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                    1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                    1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                    2007 DRz 400S
                    1999 ATK 490ES
                    1994 DR 350SES

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                      #11

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                      Rich
                      1982 GS 750TZ
                      2015 Triumph Tiger 1200

                      BikeCliff's / Charging System Sorted / Posting Pics
                      Destroy-Rebuild 750T/ Destroy-Rebuild part deux

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                        #12
                        Don't know what model we are working on but I have found some parts here.

                        Shop for the Starter Repair Ki for Suzuki Yamaha GS550, GS750, GS850 E L S T ; SMU9142 at DB Electrical. The best selection, low prices, fast shipping, and great customer service.
                        Jim, in Central New York State.

                        1980 GS750E (bought used June,1983)
                        1968 CB350 Super Sport (bought new Oct,1968)
                        1962 CA77 305 Dream (bought used Feb,1963)

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