Regulator Rectifier Gets Very Hot -HELP

[johnw]

GS Stators & regulators

OK guys, so what became of all of this ..?

I just acquired a 1984 GS550L with only 10,000 K's , mint condition ,
but serious charging problems and I was about to buy the electrosport.

This stream would seem to indicate that neither Suzuki's OEM or electrosport or Ricks are a solution ...?

What is , or ended up being the solution for this faulty design by Suzuki ?

New Rider, need advice. jwarden9@cogeco.ca

Thanks, JW

Waterdown, Ontario

[posplayr]

OK guys, so what became of all of this ..?

I just acquired a 1984 GS550L with only 10,000 K's , mint condition ,
but serious charging problems and I was about to buy the electrosport.

This stream would seem to indicate that neither Suzuki's OEM or electrosport or Ricks are a solution ...?

What is , or ended up being the solution for this faulty design by Suzuki ?

New Rider, need advice. jwarden9@cogeco.ca

Thanks, JW

Waterdown, Ontario

CHARGING SYSTEM_HEALTH

THE_ULTIMATE_SOLUTION

[posplayr]

Why not sense when the "excess" power is available, and then power one of these


- JC

This is a regulator function; where you gonna get it form?

[posplayr]

I made the statement generic as I figured you'd have an idea.

One possibility is to keep track of the amps used in the system and define an "optimum" to keep all components happy.

If system drops below this threshold, send power proportionally to the Peltier to maintain optimum load.

And, yes, this is similar to the R/R function when it heats, except this method will contribute to system health due to the cooling effect on the R/R. Peltiers are pretty tough to burn up and are cheap.

The Peltier can go on anything, but the R/R is close, about the right size/shape, and can benefit from the cooling effect.

Why a Peltier? Well, we know that shunting power just makes useless heat, and I don't know of some other electrical component someone would want on a bike that would work sometimes and at various levels- all out of the control of the rider.

Now....

It would be great if we had a cylindrical Peltier (similar in design to a capacitor with separate plates internally) that would fit in our oil fill holes like a dipstick to provide at least minimal cooling to the oil. (Think oil dipstick heaters, but cooling instead).

This would reduce heat in the stator and oil, both due to load and direct cooling.

Eh...probably too complicated for a 30 yr old bike anyways...just figured while we were talking theory

- JC

The Peltier is an interesting device , but I dont see the benefit over using the SERIES R/R unless you want be able to switch on a drink cooler on the highway in the summer so the drinks are cold when you stop.

You could design a shunting type R/R that shunts current to the Peltier, but that is a whole other design problem that the SERIES R/R is much better at and already exists.

[posplayr]

A cold drink would be nice- mini fridge! Now I have a reason to remove the airbox!

But, seriously, benefit? Well, cost for one. Load sense and COTS Peltier. Easy to retrofit- externally.

Secondly, it's an alternative. The BEST solutions often come from comparing pros and cons of different solutions.

- JC

The Peltier is not the issue it is the regulation.

And I'm moderately familiar with "Performance Based Architectural Design"

I coined the phrase and have been a evangalist for the last 20
years.