Basscliff Help - Rectifier Installation

[cowboyup3371]

Update - No Change

So I installed the new rectifier from Duaneage and cleaned or changed out all connections that I could (left some bullet ones in head light area). Put the battery back in and tested it at 13.5v after sitting outside for the last week next to the bike. Tried to start the bike and it didn't want to start for about 10 mins or so, 20 at most. Yes I checked to make sure the bowls had fuel but it didn't want to fire. After some time, noticed the battery voltage dropped down to 12.3 and about this time I jumped it from my truck WITH THE ENGINE OFF. After a few times of this, the bike finally turned over and started running.

I checked the voltage again and it still stayed at 12.3 both at idle (1500rpm) and at 5000rpm. I also tried to check the stator connections but the multimeter a friend lent me only had a 200v setting. At this time, each set of three wires read 2.5 2.5 and 4.5. If I understand the difference correctly that should have translated to 25 25 and 45?

Even with this readings I thought maybe I just had a bad multimeter so I thought I'd take it for a drive. So I grabbed my jacket, helmet and gloves and proceeded to run down highway 94. The first mile I only got up to 50 before making a left hand turn and then only getting up to 55 (at 5000 rpm in 6th gear). The hwy speed is 65 but I am still a little nervous and after making that turn I had a 20mph headwind to deal with. About two or three miles down I turned down a dirt road to so I could turn around and go back to my house. Unfortunately, I didn't think about having it in first gear and stalled the bike when I stopped to turn around. I couldn't start it back up at all (no juice except for lights) so I was stuck. Fortunately, my girlfriend had followed me with the truck so she ran back to the house to get my wooden boards I use as ramps and came back to pick me up.

So, I think based on those readings and everything else I checked from the stator papers this situation tonight leaves me with one issue...my stator is bad. So, I'm ordering a new one tomorrow from Ricks and am hoping it will get here before next week so I can get it running again.

Sorry for being so long...anyone have any other ideas?

[BassCliff]

Hi,

Be sure you are measuring for AC voltage when performing the live test on the stator output. A good stator should give you about 70vAC between each leg and each should be within a couple of volts of each other. Use the guides on my website and the Stator papers.

With the bike running, what is the voltage at the battery at idle? It should be better than 13v. What is the voltage at 4000rpm? It should be around 14.5v - 15v. It's all in the Stator papers troubleshooting chart.

Have you cleaned the connections between the r/r output and the positive batter terminal i.e. the fusebox connections? Have you run the ground wire from the r/r to the negative battery terminal? Keep up the good work.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

[cowboyup3371]

Hi,

Be sure you are measuring for AC voltage when performing the live test on the stator output. A good stator should give you about 70vAC between each leg and each should be within a couple of volts of each other. Use the guides on my website and the Stator papers.

Yes, I was measuring for AC voltage but the meter I used only had a 200v setting as its lowest one - that's where I was getting the 2.5 2.5 and 4.5 readings.

With the bike running, what is the voltage at the battery at idle? It should be better than 13v. What is the voltage at 4000rpm? It should be around 14.5v - 15v. It's all in the Stator papers troubleshooting chart.

I had my local motorcycle shop fully charge the battery last week and it kept that charge ever since. Before I started the bike, the battery was at 13.5 but it took forever to start. When it finally started the battery measured 12.3 at idle and stayed there. It never climbed even when running it at 5000 RPM.

Have you cleaned the connections between the r/r output and the positive batter terminal i.e. the fusebox connections? Have you run the ground wire from the r/r to the negative battery terminal? Keep up the good work.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

Yes, I did clean all of those connections and the ground wire is run from the R/R to the negative terminal. Unfortunately it hasn't seemed to help. The local used parts house here in town has used stators for $75 and new ones for $120 so I'm going to try to recharge the battery again, run the tests again, and see what happens from there.

[cowboyup3371]

I went back and found a page of your tests that I missed the last time. I'll redo the resistance test tonight.

[BassCliff]

Hi,

It certainly seems like your stator is not putting out what it should. Does it look like this?



That's a toasty stator.



Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

[duaneage]

Typically the RR goes bad first and takes the stator with it. After installing the Honda RR many find the stator is bad as well and that's regrettable. The good news (if there is any) is that the Honda RR will outlast the bike and you should not have any more problems with keeping the battery up.

I see you cleaned the wiring up and that further insures the reliability of it all.

[cowboyup3371]

Thanks guys. I'll take the stator off the bike either tomorrow or Sat AM depending on other things I have to do.