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    I have an 83 gs 1100 e and last season i knew the battery was overcharging causing the fluid in the battery to boil out. So I put a new rectifier in the bike. This seemed to solve the problem; the voltage was about 13.5 at idle and around 14.6 at 5000 rpm. I recently took the bike on a 90 mile trip, shut it off and then it wouldn't start. I next checked the battery to see if it was still good and it was. Now i'm only putting 12.8 volts at idle and it drops when i rev it to 5000. Could the new rectifier have killed my stator?
    Thank you

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    Originally posted by gsx1100 View Post
    I have an 83 gs 1100 e and last season i knew the battery was overcharging causing the fluid in the battery to boil out. So I put a new rectifier in the bike. This seemed to solve the problem; the voltage was about 13.5 at idle and around 14.6 at 5000 rpm. I recently took the bike on a 90 mile trip, shut it off and then it wouldn't start. I next checked the battery to see if it was still good and it was. Now i'm only putting 12.8 volts at idle and it drops when i rev it to 5000. Could the new rectifier have killed my stator?
    Thank you
    check the stator pages especially phase 1 ; you might just have bad connections


    Finally STEP #3.) Perform Stator Paper Checks. The stator pages checks are not perfect, but they are designed to help you through a process of elimination in determining what is wrong with your charging system. The good news about doing steps #1 and #2 above first, is that when the stator pages say to check your connections you know you already have done it. Here is the update.


    http://www.thegsresources.com/statorpapers4.php

    Link to Revised PHASE A of Stator Pages:


    ORIGINAL_STATOR_PAGES

    The most important thing to do checks at 5000 RPM which is typical cruising speed. You might find that you will need to clean your fuse box to get the positive side voltage drops below 0.2V at 5000 RPM. In steps #1 above you should of gotten most of the connections between the R/R(+) to battery (+) in good shape except the fuse box.
    Last edited by posplayr; 11-16-2015, 07:30 PM.

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      #3
      In my personal experience those symptoms are repaired by cleaning connections and adding grounds. Good luck.

      If you intend to check your stator ohms, be very careful to make sure your meter is making good connections to the leads. I have a new Ricks stator for a GS850 that I didn't need to buy...
      Last edited by 850 Combat; 06-27-2010, 12:11 AM.
      sigpic Too old, too many bikes, too many cars, too many things

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        #4
        Cleaning the connections worked for me!

        Hi I have an 82GS1100G and was also having charging issues and also bought a brand new Ricks Stator convinced that mine was faulty as well as one of Duanege's lovely R/R's only to find that the fault was through the + side from fuse block to battery. Disassembly and cleaning and an application of die electric paste fixed the problem immediately. Cost - under 10$. Ricks stator plus rect almost 200 hundred bucks needlessly spent.
        The other thing I learned was that using a good meter with a diode tester is a great investment! Accurate readings YES! I found it very surprising to see how much corrosion exists between the washers and nuts and inside the bullet connections. Happy cleaning!! Paul

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          #5
          I checked the stator and all appears to be good. The ac outputs were around the same within 1 volt for each leg. Do they have to be exactly the same.

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            #6
            I was also reading up on the r/r connections and stator. It appears that all stator legs should go to the r/r but only two of mine do and the other goes to a green wire in the main harness. Could this be a problem or just one of the legs running through the headlight system.

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              #7
              Originally posted by gsx1100 View Post
              I checked the stator and all appears to be good. The ac outputs were around the same within 1 volt for each leg. Do they have to be exactly the same.
              No dont need to be the same; You got 80 volts at 5K RPM?

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                #8
                Originally posted by gsx1100 View Post
                I was also reading up on the r/r connections and stator. It appears that all stator legs should go to the r/r but only two of mine do and the other goes to a green wire in the main harness. Could this be a problem or just one of the legs running through the headlight system.
                It is generally recommended to go straight to teh R/R with the stator conenctions. If yours is stock the 3rd leg is running to the left hand switch, returning on a W/R wire.

                You have seen this yes?

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                  #9
                  i have 60 volts at 5000 rpm. what bass cliffs stator test said it should be. Is this a problem?

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                    #10
                    Also how would i eliminate the handle bar switch loop and connect the r/r directly to the stator.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by gsx1100 View Post
                      Also how would i eliminate the handle bar switch loop and connect the r/r directly to the stator.
                      see the posted instruction

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by gsx1100 View Post
                        i have 60 volts at 5000 rpm. what bass cliffs stator test said it should be. Is this a problem?
                        That is the low side but it should charge above 1500-2000 rpm

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                          #13
                          I think I found my problem. I did step 2 of the stator pages and found the voltage to be about 1.25 volts, which is way over .25 volts. This is assuming i did the test correctly. I disconnected the red lead of the r/r and left the rest connected and performed the test with the meter. Is this correct?. If this is right is there a way of just running a new wire connection to the fuse box then the battery because the red lead goes into the main harness and I dont know where it goes. Thanks so much for the help, i wish i was better with electrical stuff.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by gsx1100 View Post
                            . I disconnected the red lead of the r/r and left the rest connected and performed the test with the meter. f.
                            Dont do that it wil heat up the R/R and the stator

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                              #15
                              so i should leave connected totally and probe it at the connection and the battery to perform that test.

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