misfire at low revs using Ngkb8es now i changed to me iridiums it stopped.
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Originally posted by gshub View PostJust wondering wot plugs you guys with wiseco 1085 kits are using, as i have a slight
misfire at low revs using Ngkb8es now i changed to me iridiums it stopped.
Is it hard to start cold?
Coil relay Mod might be the answer and is normally highly recommended and almost madatory for high performance to insure good spark.
BTW I use the Irridums as well, but don't want that to mask another issue.
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got a Dyna S ignition and green Dyna coils with Taylor ,leads it maybe the leads
but it sounds alot better with Iridium plugs fitted.
thankyou keepem coming.
got a new set of Dyna leads orderd so will try them.
someone told me to fit B9es plugs but havent gone that route yet.
it starts at a touch of the button it bumps start at half a bike length.
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Originally posted by gshub View Postgot a Dyna S ignition and green Dyna coils with Taylor ,leads it maybe the leads
but it sounds alot better with Iridium plugs fitted.
thankyou keepem coming.
got a new set of Dyna leads orderd so will try them.
someone told me to fit B9es plugs but havent gone that route yet.
it starts at a touch of the button it bumps start at half a bike length.- from battery
- to ignition switch
- back to fuse box
- and then to right hand switch
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Originally posted by posplayr View PostSo what is the voltage at the (+) side of the coils? It is voltage drop due to connections and switch contacts- from battery
- to ignition switch
- back to fuse box
- and then to right hand switch
dont fancey sticking me finger in Ht cap to find out, please excuse me ignorance,but
trying to get a local bikeshop checkin it for me at £50 a hour is exspencive.
second problem is they only like scooters these days.
steve
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Originally posted by gshub View PostSo how would I check that m8
dont fancey sticking me finger in Ht cap to find out, please excuse me ignorance,but
trying to get a local bikeshop checkin it for me at £50 a hour is exspencive.
second problem is they only like scooters these days.
steve
We are going to measure the total volatge drop from the + side of the battery to the plus side of the coil. This way we are not measuring how well your battery is charged but rather only how good the connections are.
find the plus side of the coils. Usually orange/white side. Put the + side of your volt meter to any bare metal of the contact on the coil + side (do not remove the harness connection). You probably have to remove the tank but not always.
Put the negative side of the volt meter to the PLUS (+) side of the battery. You should see no more than about 1 volt (it will register as a negative number). If you do (-) will be measuring battery condition and voltage drop together.
Turn key on but dont crank voltage should be over 11V preferable
If it says -2V for example you would only have 10 volts to coil is there was 12V at the battery.
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I've just got poxy B8ES's in mine and she runs just fine . Dyna S and standard coils .
Cheers , Simon .http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/h...esMapSimon.jpg
'79 GS1000S my daily ride in Aus
'82 (x2) GS650ET in the shed
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Originally posted by gshub View PostJust wondering wot plugs you guys with wiseco 1085 kits are using, as i have a slight
misfire at low revs using Ngkb8es now i changed to me iridiums it stopped.
Actually, the 8's are colder plugs than most people realise. My 850 misses intermittently on cold mornings for a couple of minutes until the plugs warm up enough. It's not through poor tuning. It's done it under several different states of carb tuning and when the PO owned it as well.
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Originally posted by posplayr View Post
BTW I use the Irridums as well, but don't want that to mask another issue.
Most of the better, more expensive spark plugs usually list pros like "hotter spark", or more "complete combustion". It's been my understanding that the REAL benefit to the fancy plugs is better anode material, and hence longer plug life. There are some different anode shapes (u-channels, those fancy dual and quad anode kinds), but I don't think those really generate any extra combustion by themselves, and are probably overkill for a stock or lightly modified GS.
Might it be the best practice to use standard NGK plugs to tune with. Like Pos said, you don't want fancy plugs to mask any underlying problems you might have. Tuning with the NGKs would also be cheaper, since you'll be doing lots of plugs chops with periodical plug changes once they get too colored. Once it's dialed, and you've insured there are no problems in the ignition system, you could then switch to the fancy pants plugs for the longer maintance interval. Sorta like using dino oil right after major engine work, since you'll be changing the oil relatively quickly. Any thoughts?
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Plug chops ? What means this thing ? I like lamb chops and pork chops , but plug chops ?
Once I've run my "new" engine in , I'll put my Iridiums back in . I find the old girl is a bit more "spirited" with them .
Cheers , Simon .http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/h...esMapSimon.jpg
'79 GS1000S my daily ride in Aus
'82 (x2) GS650ET in the shed
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Originally posted by simon kuether View PostPlug chops ? What means this thing ? I like lamb chops and pork chops , but plug chops ?
Once I've run my "new" engine in , I'll put my Iridiums back in . I find the old girl is a bit more "spirited" with them .
Cheers , Simon .1978 GS1085.
Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!
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Originally posted by simon kuether View PostPlug chops ? What means this thing ? I like lamb chops and pork chops , but plug chops ?
Once I've run my "new" engine in , I'll put my Iridiums back in . I find the old girl is a bit more "spirited" with them .
Cheers , Simon .
Any dyno figures? I'm sure there's at least some benefit other than longer life, but I'm not sure it's due to a better spark, or a better heat range than the stockers. To be fair, the first thing I reinforce on any vehicle I own is the ignition system, with the intent of eliminating any low voltage problems at the coils (can you tell I've had lots of problems in this area?). The iridiums may be able to provide better spark with sub-spec voltage at the coils. Dang, now I want to buy a bunch of test equipment so I can test all these ideas.Last edited by Guest; 06-30-2010, 01:24 PM.
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