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    Dyna S install timing marks not lining up

    79 GS850. I've installed my dyna s but am having problems getting the correct marks to line up. In order to have the 'advance' mark line up (the line to the right of the "F" mark for 1-4) ,and it really won't exactly, I have to have my plate rotated to the extreme and my pickup adjusted so far it is barely being held on by one screw. The bike doesn't idle great, sputters a bit, much like it did with the points in. any idea's why everything has to be to the extreme like that? Followed the directions that came from dynatek but can't figure this out.
    Rob
    1983 1100ES, 98' ST1100, 02' DR-Z400E and a few other 'bits and pieces'
    Are you on the GSR Google Earth Map yet? http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170533

    #2
    Are you rotating the advance (rotor in the center of the Dyna) clockwise to line up full advance mark?
    1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
    1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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      #3
      I started the bike and ran it at 2500 and timed it with my gun.
      Rob
      1983 1100ES, 98' ST1100, 02' DR-Z400E and a few other 'bits and pieces'
      Are you on the GSR Google Earth Map yet? http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170533

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        #4
        Check the advance for stiffness.
        Is the light just basic without all the retard/advance settings?
        1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
        1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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          #5
          yup, just a basic timing light. I'll go out know and check but I'm pretty sure the advance is working smoothly. I'll maybe try setting the timing staticly with the advance rotated. I tried to think what could be wrong mechanically with the bike (crank, cams, etc...)that would cause this but that's a bit advanced for my mechanical mind.
          Rob
          1983 1100ES, 98' ST1100, 02' DR-Z400E and a few other 'bits and pieces'
          Are you on the GSR Google Earth Map yet? http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170533

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            #6
            There's nothing wrong with static timing the bike.
            1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
            1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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              #7
              You probably did not move the pickups on the Dyna S before timing so try placing the plate centered in the slots, ie screws in the middle of the slots. The pickups should be symmetric to each other so if you found it necessary to move the pickup so it's being held on by one screw you probably over did it. While things are fresh I would suggest resetting the position of the pickups and check it there.

              Although no two bikes are the same I found the centered position to be timed correctly. My Dyna S is 20 plus years old so I cannot comment on the current installation instructions.
              Last edited by srsupertrap; 07-03-2010, 07:39 PM.
              Steve

              1979 GS1000E (45 Yrs), 1981 GPz550 (11 Yrs)

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                #8
                Check the cam/crank chain timing.
                1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by chef1366 View Post
                  There's nothing wrong with static timing the bike.
                  http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...highlight=dyna
                  Yes, I'm all over static timing, works just as well as a light I find (a bit harder when you're trying to to adjust the advancer). I'll try adjusting the pickups to the centre for both of them and see what happens. Thanks for the advice so far.
                  Rob
                  1983 1100ES, 98' ST1100, 02' DR-Z400E and a few other 'bits and pieces'
                  Are you on the GSR Google Earth Map yet? http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170533

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                    #10
                    once in a while they send the wrong center magnetic piece in the kits.
                    KZ and gs look almost identical and are about 10 degrees different. and there are 2 different KZ types too.

                    it is a possibility the part is incorrect - call Larry at dyna tech support. They are very good at customer support.

                    you should get it timed with out having to make the adjustment channels bigger.
                    SUZUKI , There is no substitute

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