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    #16
    Originally posted by posplayr View Post
    I think if he does a 530 conversion it will help his tach.

    Already is a 530 - that explains it!!!! lol

    Not the sharpest tool in the box are you?

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      #17
      Originally posted by XTlegend View Post
      Already is a 530 - that explains it!!!! lol

      Not the sharpest tool in the box are you?
      Well your problem seems to be a gear ratio change. Won't a conversion do that?

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        #18
        Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
        Rocket science again. Ride the bike, don't look at the tachometer. Accelerate in second or third gear until the torque peaks, the engine will be screaming, power increasing smoothly with RPM, then it will feel like the power and acceleration is decreasing. Speed will still be picking up, only slower than before. That is the torque peak, and it will be about 1000 or 2000 RPM below red line if the engine is stock. Now look at the tach, is it reading something like 14,000 or so? If it is that's an error. Is the needle just jumping all over the place? Also an error. Like the other guys said, resoldering the connections on the circuit board will probably fix it.
        Thanks for your advice, I'll look into things further - here in the UK speed limit is 70 on motorways and I havent been much above that in the time I've had the bike. At 70 the bike is only 1500 rpm or so below the red line. I think there is plenty left in the engine at this point - as there should be. The tach moves smoothly enough.

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          #19
          Originally posted by posplayr View Post
          Well your problem seems to be a gear ratio change. Won't a conversion do that?
          Brainless idiot.

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            #20
            Originally posted by XTlegend View Post
            Brainless idiot.
            Thanks for the complement.

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              #21
              Originally posted by posplayr View Post
              Thanks for the complement.
              Maybe you will say something that will convince me otherwise - if so I will appologize profusely......

              I dont know what more I can say really. I have been riding bikes continuously for nearly 30 years. I know when something isnt right. The gearing is non standard but in a way that should reduce rpm at any given speed. The tacho's reading is way too high - maybe 25%. So unless the gearbox internals have been messed about with it must be a faulty Tach. These things are just frequency to voltage converters and I believe that such circuits rely on capacitors to function correctly. So maybe there is a dry joint somewhere or whatever. Anyway, life goes on.

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                #22
                What RPM does the tach show at idle? Should be roughly 1000. What is the redline RPM on your tach?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by old_chopper View Post
                  What RPM does the tach show at idle? Should be roughly 1000. What is the redline RPM on your tach?
                  Its about 1500 at idle, and thinking about it the engine sounds as if its lower than that - I think the red line is 9500 but I'd have to check. Its a standard GSX750ES (in the UK - dont know what they called it in the US).

                  The thing to do would be to get one of those optical hand held rpm measuring instruments and put a spot of Tippex on the trigger end of the crank shaft.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by XTlegend View Post
                    Maybe you will say something that will convince me otherwise - if so I will appologize profusely......

                    I dont know what more I can say really. I have been riding bikes continuously for nearly 30 years. I know when something isnt right. The gearing is non standard but in a way that should reduce rpm at any given speed. The tacho's reading is way too high - maybe 25%. So unless the gearbox internals have been messed about with it must be a faulty Tach. These things are just frequency to voltage converters and I believe that such circuits rely on capacitors to function correctly. So maybe there is a dry joint somewhere or whatever. Anyway, life goes on.

                    If you want to calculate what your tach should be reading compared to your speedometer look at this link.



                    If you want to test a tachometer, I would use a piece of test equipment. They are many types that do this like the old Dwell meter you are probably familiar with.

                    http://www.google.com/products/catal...ed=0CB4Q8wIwAA#

                    maybe you will find some value in some part of the above.

                    If you do find you have a electronic tacho issue, the best first approach is to try and re-rejuvenate the tach by replacing potentially faulty electrolytic capacitors on the RPM board and re flowing any solder traces and joints to as well to make sure the connections are all good.

                    Short of that you would be looking at a replacement or a redesign of the F to V components.

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