Anyone live in MA near boston area?

[tom203]

I was finally able to take a video and explain my wiring problem from my new phone. Hopefully you guys can help me through this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulqAFSPTCJQ

Well, if a new phone can explain wiring, I'm asking Santa for one!
I will ponder this, but I'm easily bewildered on youtube- hopefully others will figure this out before I recover.

[tom203]

You probably thought I forgot about this! My computer didn't like it at all- had to use system restore to eliminate the gremlins. What little I saw was not helpful, but I see that your wiring is nasty. Will attempt to view again on Mac- maybe I'll be see more.

[Johnny K]

Okay thanks. I put the new battery in and she started right up. But sounds horribly boggle still. Thought maybe the new battery would change a little. It didn't.

[posplayr]

I watched the video and will try and a little.

First I hope you do not plan on rifing this bike with a bar harness, That harness has had all of the tape pulled off of it and now you are asking for problems running it. Once the wiring is sorted, pull the harness off and retape it and re install.

Second, all those solder balls you see were originally crimps to make common connections in the harness (e.g. like the big lump of B/W grounds) . It is standard practice to solder those joints to keep corrosion out. So other than the fact they are all bare there is no issue with that.

Third, do you have a Volt meter. If not get one.


Fourth. The Orange/White wire that had the solder ball near the coils is stock. It is powered from the right and switch. Confirm that using your volt meter.

The PO appears to have done the correct thing and tapped off of that O/W solder ball to with a blue wire and then ye;;ow to extend the power to the coils. And also ran an extended red wire to power the Dyna S. The Black /White is ground which is grounded to an even bigger blob in the harness near the air filters. This is all CORRECT.

The only other thing the Dyna-S install needs are the two negative coil wires. Those first two wire you are the White and the Black/Yellow again those are stock colors. And they simply need to be run from the Dyna S to the negative sides of the coils. W is 1-4 and B/Y is 2-3. Hook them up.


I still don't understand what has happened here. But somebody knew what they were doing buy apparently disappeared???

After the dyna -s is connected make sure that you get spark at the coil output. And report back without getting distracted.




Jim

[posplayr]

OK I see now you are running. That is good. Before you go too far do a quick charging test to make sure at least things are operable,

Want to just get a feel for how the charging is working? Do a Quick_Test

report back on that, before you tell us about those 150 mains?

[Johnny K]

Thanks postplry. I am not sure where the whit and o/w wire should be connected to. I have the 2 negative wires hooked up to the coils. Not sure about the solid colors plug and where that should be hooked up to.

[posplayr]

Thanks postplry. I am not sure where the whit and o/w wire should be connected to. I have the 2 negative wires hooked up to the coils. Not sure about the solid colors plug and where that should be hooked up to.

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showpost.php?p=1150484&postcount=1

O/W is the ignition circuit; The Kill switch powers the:

• coils (1-4 and 2-3)
• Dyna - s (or ignitor)
• coil relay mod if you do one.

The white is the negative side of the 1-4 coil.

The solid plug is not stock; dont know what it is.

[Johnny K]

Thanks for the diagram. I also printed out the pdf document. So the white and b/y wires should be connected to the coils right? I have a connector coming off of the o/w wire to a solder joint with my 2 yellow wires that are then connected to the coils where the white and b/y wire should be connected to. The old PO had done this and I bought a new ignition/wires and coils. I re soldered those yellow wires going to the coils as it was there before. So should I just snip my yellow wires and solder the white, b/y with the red ignition wire to the tops of my coils?? Also my wiring diagram doesn't show me where the solid plug wires should connect to as you are also unsure to where they go. A bit confusing. I was wondering if anyone else could help me out with this. Thanks.

[posplayr]

Thanks for the diagram. I also printed out the pdf document. So the white and b/y wires should be connected to the coils right?

YES



I have a connector coming off of the o/w wire to a solder joint with my 2 yellow wires that are then connected to the coils where the white and b/y wire should be connected to. The old PO had done this and I bought a new ignition/wires and coils. I re soldered those yellow wires going to the coils as it was there before. So should I just snip my yellow wires and solder the white, b/y with the red ignition wire to the tops of my coils??

Coils need to be powered from O/W switched power. Doesn't matter if you use blue,red,yellow.


W and B/Y are the negative sides of the coil


to be clear:

1-4 Coil (+) O/W
2-3 Coil (+) O/W
1-4 Coil (-) W
2-3 Coil (-) B/Y

you should be able to see this clearly on the schematics



Also my wiring diagram doesn't show me where the solid plug wires should connect to as you are also unsure to where they go. A bit confusing. I was wondering if anyone else could help me out with this. Thanks.

we need more information or a better picture of the wires that were added for the non stock plug? What colors are they at least (the OE colors only)

[tom203]

Try this- when you turn on ignition, do you you have power (+) to those yellow wires going to coils? If you pull ignition fuse, do you have power to those yellow wires? ( you shouldn't ). Now that same + power has to find its way to ignitor box. Then white and black/yellow wires have to make their way from ignitor box to negative side of coils.
Ignore the solid plug unless it has the above wires in it.

[Johnny K]

Okay. I think I understand. The 2 o/w wires are connected from the wire harness spliced with the red wire from the ignition to the tops of the coils right? Then the solid black and white wire from the ignition wires connect to the bottom of the coils right? If that is the case then where do I connect my 2 loose wires which are white and b/y? I will do another video this weekend with confirmation and questions. Hope this is right.

[posplayr]

Okay. I think I understand. The 2 o/w wires are connected from the wire harness spliced with the red wire from the ignition to the tops of the coils right? Then the solid black and white wire from the ignition wires connect to the bottom of the coils right? If that is the case then where do I connect my 2 loose wires which are white and b/y? I will do another video this weekend with confirmation and questions. Hope this is right.

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to be clear:

1-4 Coil (+) O/W
2-3 Coil (+) O/W
1-4 Coil (-) W
2-3 Coil (-) B/Y

[tom203]

Can you determine the wiring from the dyna ignitor to the coils- are they buried in harness or added to it?

[emjay]

I don't have much more to offer here, Tom and Posplayr seem to have you on the right track.
But from the thread title I just thought it kind of interesting that the only two people to respond are from Maine and California.
By the way Tom, where in Maine are you. I'm in Portland.

[Johnny K]

There is the red wire that splices to the 2 o/w wires connected to the tops of the coils. The diagram also shows the white and black wires being hooked to the bottom of the coils. If the white and b/y wires are supposed to be connected to the bottom of the coils as you guys say, then where are the white and black wires comming from the ignition supposed to hook up to?