550 Igniter interchange success!!!!!!!!

[pete]

Good work Spyug, fingers crossed your start is successful!

[spyug]

Thanks Pete I found your project to be inspiring and it helped me get into this little experiment.

I'm happy that my efforts have gotten the interest of a few folks as I'm hearing that a couple of guys are working on other ways of creating an ignition for these bikes. Hopefully these can translate into options for other models of bikes too. It would be great if we could get some new ways of bringing old bikes back to life.

Stay tuned, its going to get interesting.

Cheers,
Spyug

[MelodicMetalGod]

Lurking and wishing you the best of luck!

[salty_monk]

Yes, if you slot your plate you can get the total & initial advance basically back to spec, the only thing then is that it comes in several hundred RPM earlier but hopefully the engine will tolerate that....

[spyug]

Yes, if you slot your plate you can get the total & initial advance basically back to spec

I'm interested in knowing more about this. I know it has been written up before but I can't quite find it. Would you be able to point me in the right direction or give me anymore information?

I do recall reading a bit about it but I didn't really pay attention as it didn't mean much to me at the time.

Any information would be helpful.

Cheers all,
Spyug

[salty_monk]

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=161817

Have a read here... Dyna S on a Skunk but same principle. You'll want to turn the plate the other direction to take some advance off, just slot the mounting plate so you are able to turn it.

[chef1366]

Do you have a TDC mark? I know it's on the advance but do you have a mark?
If not it may benefit you to make one by lining up the cams to tdc #1&4 and make your own mark.
Then with a degree wheel make timing marks at idle (15 degrees?) and full advance (35 degrees?) Not sure of stock settings.
With the marks use a basic timing light for the advance and static timing for idle.

[Clone]

http://home.comcast.net/~loudgpz/GPZ...ForPoints.html

http://home.comcast.net/~loudgpz/GPZ...ZgmHEImod.html

Has anyone tried something like this with a suzuki, apparently this mod has been flying around for the Kawas for a few years?

[spyug]

One of the new members is working on it right now. I'll pass it on to him.

thanks very much for bringing it up and sharing. Another great idea if it can be adapted.

Cheers
Andy

[Mista M]

Clone. I am working on the HEI mod at this moment. As of today i have all items and will begin wiring tonight. Hopefully i will have some results by the weekend. Matchless is to thank for the gs1000 diagram i am using. I will make a thread later in the week,assuming success.
Matchless has ran his for some years and Pete is also working on the same setup.

[pete]

Thanks Pete I found your project to be inspiring and it helped me get into this little experiment.

I'm happy that my efforts have gotten the interest of a few folks as I'm hearing that a couple of guys are working on other ways of creating an ignition for these bikes. Hopefully these can translate into options for other models of bikes too. It would be great if we could get some new ways of bringing old bikes back to life.

Stay tuned, its going to get interesting.

Cheers,
Spyug

That's good to hear Spyug, keeps me motivated to follow through with the HEI modules for sure

If these threads all come to fruition, there should be at least two or three different alternatives for others to get economical solutions to ignitor failures.

[hazez24]

Hey Pete I tried the hei modules on my 83 550e and I couldn't even get the bike to start. All it would do is spit sputter act like it wanted to then Just keep cranking. Hopefully you have better luck....

[pete]

I found that it's completely dependent on the signal generator.

The GS1000G circuit and the KZ550 circuit are both useless for the 450's signal generator because it seems to generate a tiny signal in comparison so needs amplifying, and I've used transistors and diodes to get where I've gotten so far.

I've had heaps of help from other guys on here like Matchless and John82q (just to name two of them) and so far I know it idles ok but that's all.

Feel free to check the ignitor thread in my signature to see the pain experienced so far as it's not quite such a straight forward process...

I actually think Spyug's solution will be simpler

[hazez24]

I'm hoping spyugs solution works aswell. Parts are so hard to find around here...and not cheap if you're lucky enough to find any.

[Mista M]

Haze,

did you run a mechanical advance setup?