The End of the Road for my Honda RR Kits

[duaneage]

As of now I have about 5 left unspoken for, interest has been very high to say the least.

[don_gibb6512]

As of now I have about 5 left unspoken for, interest has been very high to say the least.

I would very much like to buy one more please. This one would fit a 1980 GS1000G.

Please PM me as I have one more question regarding the use of the sense wire.

Thanks

Don

[posplayr]

Here in the Honda R/R poll there are only 3 of 48 reported cases of stator failure while using a Honda R/R; that is very good considering the more than 50% failure rate shown in the general poll.

Honda R/R poll

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=167974

GS stator poll

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=167978

[duaneage]

Here in the Honda R/R poll there are only 3 reported cases of stator failure while using a Honda R/R; that is very good considering the more than 50% failure rate shown in the general poll.

Honda R/R poll

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=167974

GS stator poll

Probably from stator damaged caused by the OEM in the first place. Once cooked by a shorted RR the stator life is shortened (pardon the pun) dramatically.

Honda CM and CB bikes don't have stator failures (the CDI pickups are their Achilles Heel) and this despite terrible connections. Suzuki used scores of models of RRs over the years from Nippo Denso while Honda stuck with the same RR design from ShinDenGen for over 3 decades.

I think that says it all.

[posplayr]

Probably from stator damaged caused by the OEM in the first place. Once cooked by a shorted RR the stator life is shortened (pardon the pun) dramatically.

Honda CM and CB bikes don't have stator failures (the CDI pickups are their Achilles Heel) and this despite terrible connections. Suzuki used scores of models of RRs over the years from Nippo Denso while Honda stuck with the same RR design from ShinDenGen for over 3 decades.

I think that says it all.

Agree the three are inconclusive, and could easily have already been damaged.

I'm starting to guess that the 6th wire sense is sufficent to avoid most of the issues with bad (+) side connections. Honda's may also have better grounding and so have not needed a true differential reference sensing and simply having the plus side sense is good enough. Either that or it is a softer shunting device and absorbs more heat than a FET device for example; that puts less stress on the stators.

[BassCliff]

Jeez Cliff, your post sounds like I bought a Harley or something,

LOL!

I just wanted you to know how much I appreciate you.

You didn't buy a Harley, did you?


All the best to you and yours,

Cliff

[duaneage]

As Porky Pig once said, That's All Folks.

Thank all of you for the orders, I have a few waiting on Money Orders and such to arrive next week and that should do it.

[Greg B]

If one of those falls through, let me know. I'll pay right away.
Thanks, Greg B.

[Matchless]

Well I never ordered one from you, but I always knew that you were just an email away if ever I needed one. That service is going to be sorely missed!

Something that has had me wondering for a while... Were all the Honda R/R's you saw made by Shindengen?

[themess]

A request

Could you describe, in general terms, how to select and test a Honda (or other) regulator, to ascertain if it is appropriate to use in GSes? It seems to me that such information would be useful enough to current and future generations of GSR members and users, to keep it up permanently, like the carb rebuilding series.

[MikeG]

Talk about timing! I purchased a r/r just in case this past weekend and my mechanic called me up not 4 minutes ago. He hooked up the battery and had the bike running while he did a little more fiddling with the carbs when the voltage started running up past 16v! (he says he always has the battery on a monitor when he works on a bike so the can check at a glance)

So, the r/r will be getting installed this week rather than this fall as I had planned!

[duaneage]

Could you describe, in general terms, how to select and test a Honda (or other) regulator, to ascertain if it is appropriate to use in GSes? It seems to me that such information would be useful enough to current and future generations of GSR members and users, to keep it up permanently, like the carb rebuilding series.

I'm going to do a photo shoot of the last one I modify, I've asked another member to help with creating a nice looking PDF as well. I've modified more RRs than anyone ever will and would like to share the knowledge.

Which RR to use was discussed exhaustively in another thread, I don't want to re-ignite a storm over it. I will include my personal list of bikes that I looked for RRs from, along with the models that work best and things to look out for.

[Flaming Chainsaws]

I'm going to do a photo shoot of the last one I modify, I've asked another member to help with creating a nice looking PDF as well. I've modified more RRs than anyone ever will and would like to share the knowledge.

Which RR to use was discussed exhaustively in another thread, I don't want to re-ignite a storm over it. I will include my personal list of bikes that I looked for RRs from, along with the models that work best and things to look out for.

Then we should host this how-to on BassCliff's site .

[duaneage]

Agree the three are inconclusive, and could easily have already been damaged.

I'm starting to guess that the 6th wire sense is sufficent to avoid most of the issues with bad (+) side connections. Honda's may also have better grounding and so have not needed a true differential reference sensing and simply having the plus side sense is good enough. Either that or it is a softer shunting device and absorbs more heat than a FET device for example; that puts less stress on the stators.

Or they used better diodes and a larger heatsink. Really I don't know but time tested the design and it won.

[duaneage]

Then we should host this how-to on BassCliff's site .

Man you are good. ESP run in the family?