450 Electrosport stator

[pete]

I reckon if your R/R is doing 30v with only 50vAC output then it's probably fine...

[davidduarte]

I reckon if your R/R is doing 30v with only 50vAC output then it's probably fine...

30? did you mean 13?

[pete]

30? did you mean 13?

Errr... yeah... 13

[davidduarte]

I replaced both my R/R and stator on my 1981 gs450l last July. I bought an electrosport R/R, but I know I bought a different brand stator, like you said I couldnt find it from electrosport. I think I bought a stock one. The electrosport's R/R is oversized and you need to make a new hole to mount it. SNIP

funny, as I was tracing the wires last night, I took the R/R off and the igniter. I drilled new holes in the igniter bracket to move it over so the Electrex R/R would fit. I forgot about that.

[davidduarte]

I sent a message to Electrosport, because they didn't list a stator for the 80-82 450. The OEM part number is the same for the 450, 400, 550, 750 and 850, so I asked if their unit would fit, and apparently it will. Checked Electrosport's website this morning, and they now list one for the 450 (although it has a different part number). Progress

[pete]

Nice work! With any luck you'll be charging real soon

[davidduarte]

just ordered a new stator today; let's hope it doesn't take more than a week to get here from California. Of course, I'm also waiting on the gasket for that case as well.

[davidduarte]

I now have the gasket, so tonight when I got home, I took the impact driver and loosened all the philips head screws holding the case on. I'm glad that went smoothly, as when I did it on the 850, I ended up having to drill one screw and remove it with an extractor. I'm working a day shift tomorrow, so I'm hoping to tear the case off and replace the stator after dinner, and with any luck I'll have some better voltage readings soon!

[pete]

Looking forward to how it goes! I did a few screw heads in on mine pulling it off all those many years ago, so this time I got the Z1 SS allen head kit and some anti seize to try and avoid it in future.

[davidduarte]

Looking forward to how it goes! I did a few screw heads in on mine pulling it off all those many years ago, so this time I got the Z1 SS allen head kit and some anti seize to try and avoid it in future.

left side engine case off. Fun little things that the manual doesn't tell you: in addition to the 8 screws holding said case on that you can see, there are two more that are hidden behind the sprocket cover :S nice thing is that they are all the same size and length. Removed the old stator, got the new stator in place. It's been a long time since I've done this; how anal do I have to get about getting the surfaces clean for the new gasket? I got the old gasket off pretty easily. It only broke in one place, and didn't appear to get stuck or leave much if any residue either on the case or the engine.

[pete]

Man I shoulda remembered that! Yes there are an extra pair behind there... sheesh...

I was pretty anal with old gasket material on mine, and if I recall correctly there needs to be a bit of sealant under there as well, don't have a manual here at work to confirm though...

[davidduarte]

I've done just about all I can do tonight. Tomorrow I'm going to the hardware store to get stainless steel allen head cap screws to replace the philips head screws that hold the case in. I think I will also scan a copy of the gasket and post it in the forums somewhere. If it ever gets discontinued, then making a new one will be a cinch.

[SqDancerLynn1]

I would put a small amount of sealer around where the wires go thru.. Gasket doesn't need any BUT the surfaces need to be clean. DID your stator look burnt ? 50 VAC is low? but if they are all the same ? Make sure the reg is grounded good to the battery. Take a reading battery + TO fuse block + difference should be less than .5 volts

[davidduarte]

I would put a small amount of sealer around where the wires go thru.. Gasket doesn't need any BUT the surfaces need to be clean. DID your stator look burnt ? 50 VAC is low? but if they are all the same ? Make sure the reg is grounded good to the battery. Take a reading battery + TO fuse block + difference should be less than .5 volts

450 doesn't have a fuse block, just a main fuse, but I'll check that out. I've been meaning to replace some of the wires in there anyway; now would probably be a good time to do it The surfaces are in good shape, I need to get some Scotch-Brite and just lightly clean it up.

[davidduarte]

here's the old stator along with the new one:




unlike the 850, all the screws are the same length:



They are 6mm x 35 mm, which is somewhat of an oddball size, at least my local hardware store didn't have them. I got hex head screws instead, but I may order these:

http://monsterfastener.com/itemview.aspx?itm=SCSBSS-168

They look more like the original philips head screws, but much easier to get out