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    #16
    tagged for interest.....

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      #17
      Originally posted by Steve View Post
      OK, I am completely confuzzled now. You are now saying that it cranks and runs, but in your first post, you said it doesn't. .
      I said it wont start WITH THE BUTTON

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        #18
        Originally posted by pooleo View Post
        I said it wont start WITH THE BUTTON
        You did say that in your first post. But it could be the starter button. The starter button acts as a switch, when you push on it the switch closes, when you release it, it opens. If your button doesn't close when you push it in, you have an open circuit when it should be closed. That's why you need to check for continuity on the two wires leading from the starter button when the starter button is pressed.

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          #19
          Also, make sure your kill switch on the right handlebar switching assembly is set to "RUN" and read page 14 in this owners manual to include the note.
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            #20
            yes, thanks. I will be looking everything over. Its not a complicated circuit so should no be very difficult.

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              #21
              What you will be looking for is an "open" circuit. It could be a disconnected wire, a high resistance connection, a bad switch, or a bad ground connection.

              Here is a 650G service manual with a wiring diagram on the last page in Chapter 7. Also there are some "limited" troubleshooting procedures in it.
              Big File, 133MB. You'll see that "yellow/green" wire going from one side of the starter button, through the clutch safety switch all the way to your starter relay. The other side goes to a 10Amp fuse. Be sure to check all your fuses, as the ignition switch uses a 15 amp fuse.

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                #22
                Could be a bad solinoid. A jumper from the bat to the activation terminal would give you an answer quick.
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                  #23
                  OK, since you now have the diagram and I am getting tired of pointing out the solution again, I will only add that the clutch "safety" switch is in series with the "button". If the clutch switch is bad and the connection is not bypassed as previously DETAILED, the button will not have a chance of working. Of course, the starter button itself could be bad, but you will find that sooner or later.

                  I'm outta here.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Steve View Post
                    OK, since you now have the diagram and I am getting tired of pointing out the solution again, I will only add that the clutch "safety" switch is in series with the "button". If the clutch switch is bad and the connection is not bypassed as previously DETAILED, the button will not have a chance of working. Of course, the starter button itself could be bad, but you will find that sooner or later.

                    I'm outta here.

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                    You must have missed the post when I said I BYPASSED THE SWITCH. And the bike still will not start with the button.

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                      #25
                      Ah, such a simple circuit. You'll get it eventually.
                      Some folks are slow learners.
                      Others are just slow.
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                        Ah, such a simple circuit. You'll get it eventually.
                        Some folks are slow learners.
                        Others are just slow.

                        agreed, but being 15* outside, I think Ill wait till it warms up a bit

                        Im still waiting on your guys's wizardary to tell me what the problem is, ya know, cause you all were so adament on the clutch switch....

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                          #27
                          Apparently you guys are mistaking me for some newb and/or young kid who knows nothing. And tho I am a newb to this forum, I am not a new to life or bikes for that matter! I am very knowledgable and having the wiring diagram is all I need to get this thing figured out, which I will.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by pooleo View Post
                            Apparently you guys are mistaking me for some newb and/or young kid who knows nothing. And tho I am a newb to this forum, I am not a new to life or bikes for that matter! I am very knowledgable and having the wiring diagram is all I need to get this thing figured out, which I will.
                            Go back to the Neutral Safety Switch.

                            By the way, the entire starter circuit takes less than an hour to repair, for those who listen to the troubleshooting help they are given.
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                              Go back to the Neutral Safety Switch.

                              By the way, the entire starter circuit takes less than an hour to repair, for those who listen to the troubleshooting help they are given.

                              You guys must be dislexic around here. Did you miss the post that I said its 15* out? I can wait till it warms up a bit!

                              And what trouble shooting help has been given........"its the clutch saftey switch, bypass it....blah, blah, blah.."

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by pooleo View Post
                                You guys must be dislexic around here. Did you miss the post that I said its 15* out? I can wait till it warms up a bit!

                                And what trouble shooting help has been given........"its the clutch saftey switch, bypass it....blah, blah, blah.."
                                We never said that was it, we said take a moment to check it. The first step to troubleshooting this very simple circuit.
                                By the way, you're a jackass.
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