Need Charging System Help

[TheCafeKid]

How about that!! Someone must have listened to our plight! Hahaha
Nice find Dave!

[Redman]

And Ricks ... eschhh $195 to rebuild yours

Product # (20-309) Rebuilt OEM Style Suzuki Stator
Description Rebuilt OEM Style Suzuki Stator: A $50.00 refundable core charge applies unless core is provided in advance. *This is a 12 pole stator.
Price $ 195.00
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[salty_monk]

That would be me on the other thread mentioning heat... I would say Stator is the first suspect, rr is the 2nd followed by any wiring in between (and the fuse).

If your new stator came from Wazz was it for a Skunk? Could be the wrong stator then as stated.

Hope you get to the bottom of it.... must also be plenty of 850 spares bikes around with a rotor for you if you go that route.

[salty_monk]

That would be me on the other thread mentioning heat... I would say Stator is the first suspect, rr is the 2nd followed by any wiring in between (and the fuse).

If your new stator came from Wazz was it for a Skunk? Could be the wrong stator then as stated.

Hope you get to the bottom of it.... must also be plenty of 850 spares bikes around with a rotor for you if you go that route.

[gbw]

If your new stator came from Wazz was it for a Skunk? Could be the wrong stator then as stated.

Good question Dan. Wazz had a 750 at some point and also parted out a 750 or two. So it is the correct stator but seems to share the same problem my stock stator has.

I'll go ahead and buy the new stator Redman pointed me to and see if that helps. I just need to sell a few things to raise some funds.

[mrbill5491]

Just do a total electrical system check up. I started with my ground connections, 3 grounds, battery to the engine case, RR to the frame or engine case, and RR to the battery. Check and clean all your electrical connections . Check your fuse panel as well, I found mine had corroded inside causing some of the problems I had. Check and clean the ground wire from the fuse box as well while you are working on your system. Repair any connection that looks questionable. I've done what some suggest to do, if you have burnt connections, change them over from the bullet types to the spade connectors. Did that with my new RR and stator.

[Redman]

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I'll go ahead and buy the new stator .....

Greg,

You say it does charge when bike is cold.
Maybe can run it till the charging falters, and then check the stator no load voltage and the ohm readings again. And compare to when cold. If appreciable changes, then can have better confidence in getting the new stator.

Dave

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[gbw]

Greg,

You say it does charge when bike is cold.
Maybe can run it till the charging falters, and then check the stator no load voltage and the ohm readings again. And compare to when cold. If appreciable changes, then can have better confidence in getting the new stator.

Dave

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I'm going to do that today. I'll report back.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions guys!

[Redman]

Greg...?

Anything to report on this?

[gbw]

Greg...?

Anything to report on this?

Thanks for checking. No, nothing new. Been busy with family and other projects. Hope to get back to the GS a little this weekend.

[Redman]

Thanks for checking. No, nothing new. Been busy with family and other projects. Hope to get back to the GS a little this weekend.

How about family time in the garage ha har har
Say to father-in-law "You can join me in the fun in the garage. Here is a five gallon bucket on this side of the bike, and one on other side. You can sit on which ever one I am not sitting on. Look, these are the stator wires, and these are the R/R wires." ha ha har har

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[govburns]

GBW,

I'm interested to see what you find out. I have a 79 GS850 with basically the same set up as you and everything checks out according to the stator papers, but it's still not charging properly.

I've been thinking that maybe the older 12 pole stators don't work well with the Honda RR's (SH232, 532, etc).

Does anyone have a 12 pole stator and a Honda RR that is functioning properly?

Perhaps duaneage knows?

[govburns]

Just found this so I guess that answers my question.

I have put 5k on my 79 850 with a Honda r/r with no problems to my oem 79 850 12 pole stator I got from rustybronco.

I check the vac and vdc periodically and all outputs are with limits(14.2v at 5k rpm's).

I also run a volt meter from showchrome and the output has not changed, knock on wood.

[JayWB]

It's not difficult or expensive to build a "dummy" load to test a stator and prove it good or bad once and for all. Just use light bulbs.

Get 3 standard house light bulb sockets and wire them in a triangle (that's "Delta" for you electrical types). Wire all 3 of them positive to negative such that when you're finished you literally have a triangle of light sockets. Connect one wire from your stator to each of the 3 "corners" and put 60 or 75 watt light bulbs in the sockets (make all 3 of them the same wattage).

Start the engine and you should see each lamp light pretty much the same. Measure your stator voltage 3 times from stator wire to stator wire, wire A to B, wire A to C and wire B to C.

[govburns]

Nice idea. I'm going to do this.

It's not difficult or expensive to build a "dummy" load to test a stator and prove it good or bad once and for all. Just use light bulbs.

Get 3 standard house light bulb sockets and wire them in a triangle (that's "Delta" for you electrical types). Wire all 3 of them positive to negative such that when you're finished you literally have a triangle of light sockets. Connect one wire from your stator to each of the 3 "corners" and put 60 or 75 watt light bulbs in the sockets (make all 3 of them the same wattage).

Start the engine and you should see each lamp light pretty much the same. Measure your stator voltage 3 times from stator wire to stator wire, wire A to B, wire A to C and wire B to C.