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    On side of the road right now - bike's not starting

    Hey everyone. I was out on a ride today with my wife, and after pulling over for lunch my bike is not starting. There's no reaction when depressing the start button. No click, nothing. The headlight and gauges are all functioning, and the bike will crank really strongly when I connect the solenoid posts with a screw driver. So, the bike is cranking really strong but nothing is catching...does this mean that there's no spark? There's plenty of gas in the tank, and the run switch is in the On position. I don't have a spark plug wrench with me to pull the plugs to test for spark. I also don't have a mini-screwdriver to open up the clutch lever to see if there's a bad connection there. All the fuses are good.

    Any help? Luckily my bike was parked in front of a public library and a starbucks so I've got computer access and warm coffee.

    I'm at my wits end, otherwise we can both ride my wife's bike home and I can come back up here tomorrow....

    #2
    " I'm at my wits end, otherwise we can both ride my wife's bike home and I can come back up here tomorrow.... "
    If no bike tomorrow , problem solved !

    Sure sounds like bad kill switch ( gauges on = so ignition switch should be OK). try hitting it gently and hope that coffee aroma will perk it up. Do you often use the kill switch?
    1981 gs650L

    "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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      #3
      Can you psychically pull the fuses and even find some to replace them. Wish you were closer I have a spare pak on my Bike. The coils may not be getting 12 vdc.
      82 1100 EZ (red)

      "You co-opting words of KV only thickens the scent of your BS. A thief and a putter-on of airs most foul. " JEEPRUSTY

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        #4
        Put fuel valve on Reserve or Prime position,is "choke" on/open... working ok? Rap on starter solenoind a couple times also..a little shock treatment... put sidestand up...

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          #5
          Bypass the clutch switch, then you will know if that's it.
          Stick a screwdriver or something similar into the spark plug cap, hold it near the head but not touching it to check for spark.
          Don't get zapped!

          Is the kill switch off?
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            #6
            Yea, I have two fresh back up fuses, and I went through and replaced and tested the starter after trading out each fuse.

            I use the kill switch every time I start and stop the bike, and I ride the bike daily.

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              #7
              Originally posted by LoopGaroo View Post
              Hey everyone. I was out on a ride today with my wife, and after pulling over for lunch my bike is not starting. There's no reaction when depressing the start button. No click, nothing. The headlight and gauges are all functioning, and the bike will crank really strongly when I connect the solenoid posts with a screw driver. So, the bike is cranking really strong but nothing is catching...does this mean that there's no spark? There's plenty of gas in the tank, and the run switch is in the On position. I don't have a spark plug wrench with me to pull the plugs to test for spark. I also don't have a mini-screwdriver to open up the clutch lever to see if there's a bad connection there. All the fuses are good.

              Any help? Luckily my bike was parked in front of a public library and a starbucks so I've got computer access and warm coffee.

              I'm at my wits end, otherwise we can both ride my wife's bike home and I can come back up here tomorrow....
              From your description It is sounding as if your start switch is bad not the clutch switch.

              If the clutch switch was bad, then shorting out the solenoid the bike should still start.

              To check for spark, pull off one of the spark plug boots and stick a screw driver or other metal object into the boot and hold the metal close to bolt head on the engine. If it is about 0.25-0.5 inches away you should see a faint spark confirming that the coils and ignition is powered.

              Hold on to the rubber part of the wire else you might get a shock when cranking the engine with key on.

              If the start switch is broken somehow you can "hot wire" the bike by running a lead from the battery (+) to one of the positive terminals on the coil (Orange/white)

              If you are near a parts store, you could also get a Phillips screwdriver and try to take apart the start switch but it would be pretty easy to lose parts on the side of the road. However, opening the switch does give an opprotunity to short out the run switch from the inside contacts as well. (some alligator clips would work) the . A volt meter would help out but ........

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                #8
                The kill switch is ON.

                I'll go try your other suggestions...

                Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                Bypass the clutch switch, then you will know if that's it.
                Stick a screwdriver or something similar into the spark plug cap, hold it near the head but not touching it to check for spark.
                Don't get zapped!

                Is the kill switch off?

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                  #9
                  Will there be a spark if the kill switch is the culprit?

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                    #10
                    Piece of advice we got.DON'T USE THE KILL SWITCH unless you need to.It will wear it out.Not designed to be used all the time.
                    Last edited by Guest; 04-29-2012, 05:19 PM.

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                      #11
                      Pull out the Headlight Fuse and save the battery power for the staart up attempt(s).

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by LoopGaroo View Post
                        Will there be a spark if the kill switch is the culprit?
                        If the kill switch is working =>then bike will spark ==>and should start

                        kill switch not work ==> no spark ==>bike no start

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by SVSooke View Post
                          Piece of advice we got.DON'T USE THE KILL SWITCH unless you need to.It will wear it out.Notdesinged to be used all the time.
                          Yes it is redundant to the ignition switch so it should be left ON all the time except when you need it.

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                            #14
                            I just tested: There's no spark...

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by LoopGaroo View Post
                              I just tested: There's no spark...
                              Very likely kill switch, if you could pull tank off you could run a jumper wire from orange/white wire on coils to battery positive -this would power the coils and the ignitor. It would likely also let starter button work.
                              1981 gs650L

                              "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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