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    It just won't run right

    I have a 78 GS1000 that i sent the carbs out and had professionally rebuilt,with bigger jets. replaced the stock ignition coils with new ones and new points. know matter what i do it runs rich and burn up plugs after about 30 minutes. sometimes it backfires as well. Please Please help. love this bike and have put a little money into it .

    #2
    if you dont miond me asking...was it Wired George by chance that did them??? Is the exhaust stock or what?? Stock airbox or pods???
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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      #3
      Why were the carburetors rejetted with larger jets? The only reason that would have been needed is if you have an aftermarket exhaust and/or pod filters. Do you have either of those?

      Also, what other maintenance has been completed? Valve clearance checked? Not sure about that model, but some have o-rings between the carb boots and the cylinder head that are a common failure point that causes vacuum leaks.

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        #4
        Thats exactly why i asked those questions...need to be precise on info to make an accessment..
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #5
          Originally posted by geronimo View Post
          I have a 78 GS1000 that i sent the carbs out and had professionally rebuilt,with bigger jets.


          replaced the stock ignition coils with new ones and new points. know matter what i do it runs rich and burn up plugs after about 30 minutes. sometimes it backfires as well.
          That's kind of what bigger jets do.
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          Life is too short to ride an L.

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            #6
            Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
            That's kind of what bigger jets do.
            If they are too large.

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              #7
              Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
              if you dont miond me asking...was it Wired George by chance that did them??? Is the exhaust stock or what?? Stock airbox or pods???
              yes wire George did them and they have pods . i change the exhaust but went back to stock

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                #8
                You say that no matter what you do it runs rich. Precisely what have you done?
                sigpic Too old, too many bikes, too many cars, too many things

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by 850 Combat View Post
                  Precisely what have you done?
                  Good question. 33 year old motorcycles need maintenance, lots of it. And every time the intake system or exhaust is modded then the carb jetting needs to be adjusted accordingly. It's a whole lot easier to just keep the bike stock, with stock jetting. That way there is no guessing or trial and error jetting needed.
                  Ed

                  To measure is to know.

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                  Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                  Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                  KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                    #10
                    Haven't you guys also said this Wired George (what a name) does some pretty crappy work?

                    Geronimo, you're in the best position to do your carbs all over. Go through the VM carb rebuild procedures here and do them yourself taking note of the jet sizes you have. Start over and follow the advice given by the guys who really know and you'll be running again shortly.
                    Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                    1981 GS550T - My First
                    1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                    2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by geronimo View Post
                      yes wire George did them and they have pods . i change the exhaust but went back to stock
                      There's your problem.


                      Wired George has a pretty well known reputation on these forums, and it isn't good.

                      You are going to have to pull the carbs off and see what he did..... or didn't do.

                      I realize that pulling a rack of carbs off of a bike seems like a daunting task but it really isn't that hard. There is a tutorial on BassCliffs web site that you should have gotten in your welcome to the forum that will walk you through the process.

                      Be forwarned, if you really want pods expect to do some tunning. While the older VM carbs are easier to tune for pods, you will still have to fiddle with them. This isn't something you can just send the carbs out and have them work right, they need to be tuned to YOUR bike.

                      Now before you go tearing things apart have you done the following:

                      Valve adjustment
                      Checked ignition timming
                      Synchronize the carbs
                      Adjusted idle mixtrue

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                        #12
                        Thank you

                        Originally posted by Kaiser Sosei View Post
                        There's your problem.


                        Wired George has a pretty well known reputation on these forums, and it isn't good.

                        You are going to have to pull the carbs off and see what he did..... or didn't do.

                        I realize that pulling a rack of carbs off of a bike seems like a daunting task but it really isn't that hard. There is a tutorial on BassCliffs web site that you should have gotten in your welcome to the forum that will walk you through the process.

                        Be forwarned, if you really want pods expect to do some tunning. While the older VM carbs are easier to tune for pods, you will still have to fiddle with them. This isn't something you can just send the carbs out and have them work right, they need to be tuned to YOUR bike.

                        Now before you go tearing things apart have you done the following:

                        Valve adjustment
                        Checked ignition timming
                        Synchronize the carbs
                        Adjusted idle mixtrue
                        Thank you. Wish i had none about this guy sooner. I could not find anyone around here to work on older bikes, let alone the carbs. There is a shop about an hour from my house that I think can get me running again. I'm going to the Dyna ignition and coil. They say thats my best bet at this point.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by geronimo View Post
                          There is a shop about an hour from my house that I think can get me running again.
                          Another shop = another problem. Do the carbs yourself, they are really very easy.
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                          Life is too short to ride an L.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by 850 Combat View Post
                            You say that no matter what you do it runs rich. Precisely what have you done?
                            I have had the carbs done.( Wire George) Put in bigger jets because i thought i was going to change the exhaust but didnt. . Going with A Dyna Ignition and coils since I have the single pods. any help would be appreciated . I also have had the rectifier and new electronics installed.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                              Another shop = another problem. Do the carbs yourself, they are really very easy.
                              What do you consider easy? 1 being very easy and 10 being a little tricky

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