.............. here's the thing i don't always comprehend what im reading but in the link to charging system health there is allot of talk about the ground....... is this talk referring to grounding the battery, r/r, to the frame. is the frame the (single point ground)?
This is actually a very good question. Going by the name "ground" or "earth" as the Brits call it you would be a bit confused.
Keeping it simple and general is not always an easy task, but I will try.
"Ground" generally refers to a point in a circuit which is available as a "return path" to the source of the power.
Generally all ground points are considered to be a zero potential (the lowest voltage in a circuit excluding negative supplies; I don't want to confuse you) . As an example with cars, the frame is generally considered a "ground" because any current that comes from the car battery flows back to the battery via the low resistance path of the frame and is picked up by a frame ground attached to ultimately get back to the the negative side of the battery.
This is traditional and common thinking and generally is accurate enough even when the car (alternator) is charging and it is actually the source of power. Current always returns to the source otherwise it would not be a circuit. So when something is charging the battery, it is actually the source not the battery. Again generally this fine detail doesnt really matter and it is OK to think of the FRAME as the "ground".
However in the case of motorcycles that have SHUNT PM stator charging systems that are very susceptible to connection issues that the specific connection methods for the current paths are just much more important.
The main objective on a motorcycle is to make the R/R terminal voltage (between R/R+ and -) be as close to the battery terminal voltage+/- as possible. This is because the R/R needs to know what the battery voltage is in order to control that value. Even for a 6 wire R/R, the voltage drops on the ground side is still important. The 6 wire avoids high side voltage measurements errors but not low side. This would require a full differential mode measurement which has not been picked up by the industry.
One approach is to put big wires directly between the R/R and battery and this can be OK. A big wire will have no voltage drop, but most of the voltage drop is in the connections so a smaller wire with big connections is probably about as good as a big wire with big connections. All the resistance is in the connections. The main drawback if there is one is that you have altered the OEM current paths relative to the fuse box when you do this. You just have to realize this.
The other approach (using stock OEM and smaller wires) is to take care in the specific path of current flows between the battery and the R/R you can also minimize voltage drops between R/R and battery.
In this context, this objective is what single point grounding is all about. It minimizes voltage drops between the battery and R/R by minimizing the currents that flow between the two. It does this by avoiding current sharing. SPECIFICALLY The ground wire between the battery and the R/R(-) only carries current that was used to charge the battery; nothing else.
When you look at a schematic you will see different types of ground symbols. You have to pay attention to that. On the GS there are ground symbols that represent "FRAME GROUND" meaning the frame is being used as part of the circuit to return current. The are also other ground symbols (for example on the R/R-) which are called "ground" but not connected to the frame.
DISCUSSION: "Where is the current really coming from"
When the bike is off and the battery is the only source of power then all currents return back to the battery. Generally this occurs through a frame/engine/main negative battery ground to get back to the battery(-).
When the bike is running and charging all the current has to get back to the R/R(-). Depending on how you have your grounds setup can have serious impacts to your charging system.
DISCUSSION: "single point ground" In the case of a motorcycle, I have added further discussion on what it does:
- It collects all currents to a single point so that they can return to the R/R(-) with minimum voltage drops.
- it minimizes current sharing among the return paths. For example and primarily the battery charging current return (to R/R) from the battery is on a separate wire from all other main current(e.g. coils,lights).
- The R/R is connected directly across the battery with the lowest voltage drops from other currents not coming through the battery.
Once you are able to visualize how the current must flow to get back to the source(i.e. the R/R-), you will be able to understand how to get the currents to flow with the lowest voltage drops. Voltage drops occur because of current moving through a resistance. If you have a given amount of resistance to live with (in this case an ever corroding contact) then reducing the amount of current in each lead is all you can do. However all currents have to return to the source, to the same place, namely back to a "single point" ground before reentering back into the R/R(-). __________________
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